Moammar al-Qadhafi = dead!

[Chakravanti]

lol you're funny and I assume George Bush should also show up for trials made by islamic nations.

FUCK YES.

[spectacle]

Note that Gadaffi was apparently lynched by the troops who captured him, rather than being summarily executed on the order of the new government. It's unfortunate but not unexpected from undisciplined rebels. If he'd been killed while helpless on order from above it would be a much worse sign for the future of Libya.

[rozn]

So what you are telling me is that these people still are a threat to others when they are locked up tightly in a prison cell for the rest of their lives? You have to chop their heads off to be safe?

Also I am not talking some hippy shit here. I am talking in the sense of the philosophy of enlightenment which brought you such comfortable features as democracy, freedom of speech, equal rights and all that nonsense. You are kicking that very philosophy with your feet when you deny human beings their right to use the very same laws we all live by.

I am arguing that exactly because those guys didn't play by the rules we have to play even more by the very same. Otherwise you are not worht a cent more than them.

I agree with Warped. Plus who is supposed to pay the bills on all the people we keep in prison? There is a limit to when you really do get a "fair" trial.
I am not saying people don't deserve trails. However these men have gone past limits.

[Eemerald]

that video has the biggest bullshit i think ive ever come across about libya on the internet.

Biased, yes, but you can't say it isn't true; you are being just as one sided in your own way. Him being a murderer doesn't cancel the positive changes he brought to Libya, "good" and "bad" things are not mutually exclusive.

Also, for those enjoying the blood orgy that world leaders have given everyone permission to have, maybe you should look at the footage of him being dragged off to his execution while begging for his life and remind yourself that this is a human being. The hypocrisy flying around is disturbing.

It maybe not have been the 'fairest' solution to the end of his life, it would have I think been much better to have him on trial, int he same way the egyptian people saw Mubarak on trial and face the very things he did to his people during his rule. But as someone else noted, you cannot controlt he action of an undisciplined rebel force who have witnessed the murder and rape and brutality that this man ordered. What i might do as a westerner bought up and educated here is very different to the mindset of someone living in a country like Libya.

The hypocracy is assuming your own values and views and opinions are somehow more valid than the people who were suffering under this dictator.
yes im sure he did a lot of good things for some people, it does not negate all the seriously terrible things he did to the majority of others, and what is hypocritical is someone whose never experienced that kind of rule, and that life, to be informing others about what an awesome guy Gadaffi was because he offered some nice things to people.

i didnt watch the videos, i didnt go looking for the blood and gore all over the internet because it doesnt interest me to see what happened when he was caught. but what has happened has happened, and it may not be soemthing to celebrate the death f another human, but i think its a huge relief for all the libyans who suffered under him and will suffer still even after hs death.

[Kiwi]

Honestly guys, at this point it really doesn't fuckin matter. The man's dead either way you look at it. Sure the government didn't get to serve their justice, the people that he ruined the lives of sure as hell did.
But then again, i wasn't there.

[Ignus]

The hypocracy is assuming your own values and views and opinions are somehow more valid than the people who were suffering under this dictator.

Hypocrisy isn't a subjective term, my values are irrelevant. The rebels want democracy, freedom, justice etc. and they do exactly what Gaddafi would have done in their place.

Also I have £10 on Gaddafi's tribe getting genocided in the next few years.

[Eemerald]

The hypocracy is assuming your own values and views and opinions are somehow more valid than the people who were suffering under this dictator.

Hypocrisy isn't a subjective term, my values are irrelevant. The rebels want democracy, freedom, justice etc. and they do exactly what Gaddafi would have done in their place.

Also I have £10 on Gaddafi's tribe getting genocided in the next few years.

i wouldnt be so certain, many of gaddafis lower ranking supporters have already got themselves into official positions in gvt as it is, and Gaddafis tribe, is huge, we're not talking about a handful of people, we're talking about hundreds of people in 1 tribe, sometimes more. and within those tribes theyre married and connected to other tribes, who may or may not have anything to do with Gadaffi. so I dont see a tribe being wiped out, but i wouldnt doubt that many close pro gadaffi supporters, family members, those who were involved directly with him to be killed. Although from what ive read the government has been trying to limit this occuring, i just think right now its a mess, and will be for a while. the gvt cant control the actions of those who might want to take revenge from people who made them suffer.

[burgingham]

I agree with Warped. Plus who is supposed to pay the bills on all the people we keep in prison? There is a limit to when you really do get a "fair" trial.
I am not saying people don't deserve trails. However these men have gone past limits.

Yeah, the costs will be through the roof to keep 3 more people in prison. Almost as high as what we spent on high tech equipment and soldiers when we first hunted them. Are you even listening to yourself? That is such cheap populism. You are french right? I might be starting to believe Le Pen is playing HnH.*

I also presented to you why there are no limits. Again: The moment you deal with these people outside of the human rights charter you have lost every right to deal with them at all and have lowered yourself to their level.


*That is cheap populism too.

[rozn]

I agree with Warped. Plus who is supposed to pay the bills on all the people we keep in prison? There is a limit to when you really do get a "fair" trial.
I am not saying people don't deserve trails. However these men have gone past limits.

Yeah, the costs will be through the roof to keep 3 more people in prison. Almost as high as what we spent on high tech equipment and soldiers when we first hunted them. Are you even listening to yourself? That is such cheap populism. You are french right? I might be starting to believe Le Pen is playing HnH.*

I also presented to you why there are no limits. Again: The moment you deal with these people outside of the human rights charter you have lost every right to deal with them at all and have lowered yourself to their level.


*That is cheap populism too.

3 people if you only talk about Qadhafi and high ranked criminals like him ( Also you should have a secure prison and that requires a good amount of cash ). But I suppose your right and have a point, I don't agree with the whole blood for blood situation the U.S has. We killed one person and we all cheer about it and it was supposed to make up for 9/11... The soldiers and high tech equipment are just drilling into our wallets. He would have probably tried killing himself in prison anyway.

[jordancoles]

I agree with Warped. Plus who is supposed to pay the bills on all the people we keep in prison? There is a limit to when you really do get a "fair" trial.
I am not saying people don't deserve trails. However these men have gone past limits.

Yeah, the costs will be through the roof to keep 3 more people in prison. Almost as high as what we spent on high tech equipment and soldiers when we first hunted them. Are you even listening to yourself? That is such cheap populism. You are french right? I might be starting to believe Le Pen is playing HnH.*

I also presented to you why there are no limits. Again: The moment you deal with these people outside of the human rights charter you have lost every right to deal with them at all and have lowered yourself to their level.


*That is cheap populism too.

3 people if you only talk about Qadhafi and high ranked criminals like him ( Also you should have a secure prison and that requires a good amount of cash ). But I suppose your right and have a point, I don't agree with the whole blood for blood situation the U.S has. We killed one person and we all cheer about it and it was supposed to make up for 9/11... The soldiers and high tech equipment are just drilling into our wallets. He would have probably tried killing himself in prison anyway.

The idea isn't that we want him to rot in jail the idea is that it's more important for undeniably guilty people to still have a trial. It shows that we respect and honor our own system. It also sets an example to others that everyone deserves a fair trial. (Though it may be over within the hour and he probably would have still been given the death penalty.)