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Re: Opinions about the Felix Baumgartner jump

Postby dagrimreefah » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:42 pm

FictionRyu wrote:Aren't we--as the HnH community--always told to stay on-topic in threads? And in the events of a discussion such as this wouldn't this be the part where a mod would step in and tell us to take it to PMs?

This is an Inn of Brodgar thread. We are discussing our opinions about the jump. Problem?
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Re: Opinions about the Felix Baumgartner jump

Postby Amanda44 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:48 pm

FictionRyu wrote:Aren't we--as the HnH community--always told to stay on-topic in threads? And in the events of a discussion such as this wouldn't this be the part where a mod would step in and tell us to take it to PMs?


What about if we -- as the HnH community -- are really enjoying the discussion and don't want it to be taken to pm's?

Ofc, i can only speak for myself here but i've learnt a thing or two from this simply from looking up various references made by the pair of them, i don't know enough to interfere but i can see where each is coming from and am enjoying watching it unfold.
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Re: Opinions about the Felix Baumgartner jump

Postby borka » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:07 pm

Worthy discussions should stay public - hey it's the Inn 8-)
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Re: Opinions about the Felix Baumgartner jump

Postby FictionRyu » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:28 pm

dagrimreefah wrote:
FictionRyu wrote:Aren't we--as the HnH community--always told to stay on-topic in threads? And in the events of a discussion such as this wouldn't this be the part where a mod would step in and tell us to take it to PMs?

This is an Inn of Brodgar thread. We are discussing our opinions about the jump. Problem?

Yes, in-fact I do have one problem..you and Burg haven't been discussing the jump, not for probably the past 2 pages you haven't. It splintered off into this 'heated discussion' between you two that hasn't been about the jump.

I don't want this to end either, I find it funny in a sense. I was just saying, most of the time mods come in and tell is to take it to PMs or what-not.

Amanda44 wrote:i don't know enough to interfere but i can see where each is coming from and am enjoying watching it unfold.

I agree with you, like I said I've been enjoying this thing as much as everyone else. I was merely just putting it out there that usually the mods come in and stop all the fun.
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Re: Opinions about the Felix Baumgartner jump

Postby cobaltjones » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:08 pm

lol you're the biggest kind of idiot if you honestly think that "stay on topic" literally means "talk only about the thing that the title of the thread tells you to talk about".

The topic of this thread has changed. Deal with it.
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Re: Opinions about the Felix Baumgartner jump

Postby Amanda44 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:26 pm

FictionRyu wrote:
I don't want this to end either, I find it funny in a sense. I was just saying, most of the time mods come in and tell is to take it to PMs or what-not.

Amanda44 wrote:i don't know enough to interfere but i can see where each is coming from and am enjoying watching it unfold.

I agree with you, like I said I've been enjoying this thing as much as everyone else. I was merely just putting it out there that usually the mods come in and stop all the fun.


Then why post in the first place? ....... And, so?
Are you sure its not more to do with your frustration at not being able to post? :P
You managed it anyway, lol.
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Re: Opinions about the Felix Baumgartner jump

Postby FictionRyu » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:34 am

Amanda44 wrote:Are you sure its not more to do with your frustration at not being able to post? :P


I don't have a desirable need to post.

cobaltjones wrote:The topic of this thread has changed. Deal with it.


...Uhh..I think I am dealing with it seeing as I'm not going off on a rampage --or something of the sort-- wanting to talk about that jump or wanting the mods to lock this or some other nonsense..


I posted in the first place because it was something I was wondering about. Every other time a thread gets like this the mods wind up locking it up or splitting it or some other BS. As I've said, I don't care for this to stop. I have no care about the OP nor what Burg and Grim have been 'discussing' .
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Re: Opinions about the Felix Baumgartner jump

Postby burgingham » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:58 am

dagrimreefah wrote:
burgingham wrote:I am sorry, but it seems to be you are having not the slightest clue about any of those theories. Not even the ones you claim to base your beliefs on. Please, read a few years. All kinds of theories. Left, right, middle. Read 8 hours and more a day. Actually study like we Europeans do. Then come back and talk to me again .

Yeah, you ask me not to insult you. Then you throw in a childish, condescending "tip" about reading more. Little man, I have been reading math, history and science books before you were even a nut stain in your mother's greasy ass-crack. Sir.


Fair enough, apologies for that as well then. Pretty sure you are not older than me though.

Last I checked the Eurozone was going down the tubes as fast as Murica was lol


Check again. The northern parts of the zone are doing better than ever.


You haven't showed me one iota of "fascism" in Mises's argumentation. How am I supposed to counter an argument that doesn't exist?


„Es kann nicht geleugnet werden, daß der Faszismus und alle ähnlichen Diktaturbestrebungen voll von den besten Absichten sind und daß ihr Eingreifen für den Augenblick die europäische Gesittung gerettet hat. Das Verdienst, das sich der Faszismus damit erworben hat, wird in der Geschichte ewig fortleben.


Source:
http://docs.mises.de/Mises/Mises_Liberalismus.pdf
, p. 41 ff.

Translation: It cannot be denied, that fascism and similar dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has saved the european ethos for now. The credit facism has gained through this will live on forever.

I don't "base my beliefs" off of anyone.


Yes, you do. That is sociology 1.0.1. Everything any human believes in or does is based on what they learned, based on their education. See that is one thing economists could learn from socilogists ;)
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Re: Opinions about the Felix Baumgartner jump

Postby dagrimreefah » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:30 am

burgingham wrote:Translation: It cannot be denied, that fascism and similar dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has saved the european ethos for now. The credit facism has gained through this will live on forever.

Firstly, you forget where Mises was living at the time, and what regime was in control (the Nazi party). It was probably in the interest of his very life that he paints the powers-that-be in a somewhat positive light if he wished for his publications to even be printed in Europe at the time. Secondly, finding a contradicting snip or two of text from the endless OCEAN of literature Mises has published over the years is pointless.

burgingham wrote:
I don't "base my beliefs" off of anyone.


Yes, you do. That is sociology 1.0.1. Everything any human believes in or does is based on what they learned, based on their education. See that is one thing economists could learn from socilogists ;)

You have a point there. :P
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Re: Opinions about the Felix Baumgartner jump

Postby burgingham » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:22 pm

It was written 1927, so the Nazis did not reign in Germany for quite some time.

No matter how short such a remark is. That is unforgiveable in my book and shows his mind-set.
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