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Re: Does God Exist?

Postby AAlex » Wed May 09, 2012 11:36 pm

Have you ever studied how complicated cancer and aids is designed? I'm sure that was designed just perfectly also.

Proof there is god, I am sure.
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Re: Does God Exist?

Postby kaizokuroof » Wed May 09, 2012 11:38 pm

Hey Atheists, if God doesn't exist, then how did Jesus rise from the dead?
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Re: Does God Exist?

Postby ravenguard19 » Wed May 09, 2012 11:44 pm

kaizokuroof wrote:Hey Atheists, if God doesn't exist, then how did Jesus rise from the dead?
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Show me a proof of he rising from dead.
I can write a good book about man that had 12 guys by his side. It would be a long story where he makes wine from water and duplicate food to share with others. At the end. he dies on a cross but then he rises from dead. Yeah. this ending would add so much drama ;3
tl:dr There no proof of god existence. Only a one book that could be written by a mad man or a kiddo on high ^^

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Re: Does God Exist?

Postby rozn » Wed May 09, 2012 11:48 pm

WarpedWiseMan wrote:My temperature statement is fact not theory. Your statement about Mars bears no merit because as you said it would have to be setup by some force for human life to exist. Kind of like how Earth was "setup" to allow human life to exist.


Wow you stupid... Im sure Earth didn't take billions of years to form :roll: Whether or not it's because humans do it, makes no difference.
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Re: Does God Exist?

Postby WarpedWiseMan » Wed May 09, 2012 11:55 pm

Nice retort. /Irony

Never said humans had to do it, I said some force. Perhaps a seismic event, perhaps the Hand of God. See? We know .000000000000000001 billionth of all there is to know in this reality. Once you accept that truth, it is much easier to have faith in the existence of Zeus.
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Re: Does God Exist?

Postby Saif_Mahlik » Thu May 10, 2012 12:14 am

COCKFIST wrote:Yes. Anyone in this thread who said otherwise is a fucking hethen and should be jihaded by saif.


I do believe God does exists but that sentance makes no sense "otherwise is a f****** hethen and should be "struggle to strive" by Saif" Yes jihad means struggle to strive not "Holy War".

Anyways...

If you throw 2 broken watchs in the air with every component/mechanism within the watch out of place, by the time the watch lands will it all come into place in a perfect manner? Ofcourse not, even if you do it for a billion years and a watch is much more simplistic then the entire solar system and life. We have been created in such a perfect manner, our life literally hangs of the balance of a string. A 1-2 mile long ozone layer to protect the World from radiation which could kill us instantly if it was not there, our bodies designed in such an amazing way! Our eyes alone designed in such an amazing way!

Also the big bang theory is completely flawed because there has to be something there to create something else or otherwise you are contradicting science as a whole, so where did the gasses/matter to create the big bang come from? Nothing materialistic in this World appears from nowhere. But God has always been here and don't say "Uhhhh...!!! IN DAT CAZE! DA UNIVERZE HAZ ALWAYS BEEN ERE'!" because that would contradict everything science says as science believes everything has a start and finish and would nullify the big bang theory.

And so to put it into perspective in relations to my first paragraph (First line), the chances of everything being made in such a perfect manner is like throwing more then a million unassembled watches into the air and all of the them coming together in a perfect manner, it simply won't happen and if you don't believe me go and take apart a pocket watch and keep throwing it up in the air in hopes that it will land together in a perfect manner (Warning, there is a VERY high likelihood that you will repeat this act for the rest of your life with no success).
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Re: Does God Exist?

Postby KaiSakurai » Thu May 10, 2012 12:41 am

i doubt god exists..........
if he would, would he accept all the poverty and diseases and wars and sadness which we have on earth?
and if there would be a god he would have to be born sometime too so how he was created? by what?
but there's no proof for big bang theory either.....
universe is evrything but universe is expanding so WHERE does it expand? and universe was created by big bang......... what has caused the big bang? and what was b4 the big bang? and how could anyone prove it? and if it is like its said that b4 big bang there was nothin.... then nothin means no mass and no mass means no big bang... big bang is said that it was all mass of the universe in the same place.... but how could mass exist in nothing?
and what causes all physical laws to be like they am? y does time flow forward and not backwards or in both directions at once?

the beginning of evrything is a mystery which will never be solved... and it shall never be solved(cause wouldnt it be a frightening thought about what was b4 evrything began?)
all this theory bullshit is nothing anyone should care about
it only kills brain cells and keep us from enjoyin the lfie we have(if we always think about how we were created and how evrything will end we cant live life here and now)
so stop talkin bout this nonsense and live ur life carefree and happy


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Re: Does God Exist?

Postby ValerieHallaway » Thu May 10, 2012 1:01 am

Our world is perfect because it's had 5 billion years to clean up it's act. Life has been on earth and has been developing for a good chunk of that time. We've existed for about a blink of an eye of that time. In fact, we haven't been the only sentient beings on the planet with emotions. When homo sapien sapien developed, it was alongside Neanderthals - they are not from the same strain as us. They lived in different areas, so it's unlikely HSS had much interaction with them, but they lived for a very short time and died off. We can't say we were the only ones, nor are we the last step in our evolutionary chain, we just haven't seen the next step. The next stage in human evolution will likely be even more well adapted to the earth than we are.

So. Uh, I'll likely get shit for saying this, but it's also very possible that our arrival on earth was an experiment or an accident.
Take into account the various plants and animals of this world. Each ecosystem is very specific, if a new predator, or a new plant is introduced to a system with no way to check it, the species will grow and grow and grow and grow and eat and eat and eat. Biologists see these species as 'Alien' to the new ecosystem.
Take a good look at the bottom of Mediterranean sea.
It used to be a lively reef on the bottom with a wide variety of species and life. If you look now, you'll see a wide foreboding expanse of green. That green is a plant genetically engineered by humans to foliage aquariums. The plant got introduced into the sea when a large scale Aquatic museum in Italy accidentally dumped it. What the plant did, was it covered coral, the coral couldn't get to it's food, and the coral died, fish couldn't hide in, eat or live in the new foliage, so the fish migrated, as the plant took over more and more of the reef, the fish had less places to go and they all died.
It is very likely that we are the 'Alien' introduced onto Earth. Our population is both wide spread, and ever expanding. We have the same symptoms that the non native pythons in Florida face-- too much prey to not constantly breed and expand. Our presence had contributed to the eradication of a large number of species.

@Kai: There was mass before the big bang, there were nebulae of dust and chemicals that were so vast that our minds cannot comprehend how large they were. Gravity existed too. Gravity has always existed. It's likely that the universe started the same way a new solar system starts. Time is purely a human invention to explain one day to another and to keep track of it. There is no time. Also, I'd very much like to live my life like just another animal, enjoying life, eating, fucking, not worrying about death till that brief moment of terror and pain that ends it, but I can't. Because I'm human, and we're all cursed to have higher brain function, I can't just let all the questions in the world go. Not for any reason actually.
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Re: Does God Exist?

Postby rozn » Thu May 10, 2012 3:06 am

There really is no point to these arguments because no one will change their mind on the topic. Believers will be believers and nonbelievers will be nonbelievers.
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Re: Does God Exist?

Postby ValerieHallaway » Thu May 10, 2012 3:41 am

But that's what makes it so fun.
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