Moving to Sweden

[DDDsDD999]

prejudiced (or more like conservative?) swedes, who would stereotype us as "hard-working", would still call us "niggas" though.

"so i can imagine it can be a lot worse for real 'niggas' in sweden"

[Sarchi]

Word of advice: Don't move to a nation shaped like a giant dick.

[jorb]

Sorry for the late reply.

Boy, no clue what to tell you. If you can -- I'm not sure what rules apply for other EU citizens -- I would suggest getting in on the uni. racket. Hop on some course -- whatever, really -- and try to collect whatever CSN (http://www.csn.se/) money you might be able to get. You'll need to take a couple of credits each term, but I suspect that there's probably some English classes or whatever that you could just breeze through. Attendance is no requirement, so you could be selective with that. Might allow you to meet some people and get some random connections as well.

I used to work as a mailman with flexible hours -- basically they'd offer me shifts and I could take them or turn them down as I felt -- and that paid OK and allowed me a fair amount of flexibility in doing other things. There's a pretty big turnover of employees at most mail carriers (Posten, Bring), so they're probably almost always hiring.

I could also recommend looking into either http://www.academicwork.se/ or http://www.adecco.se/, both are private employment agencies that might be able to hook you up with work, the former hires students specifically. I'm not sure what requirements they place on knowing the lingo. I've had warehouse work through the latter of them, and there were people there who I don't think spoke much if any Swedish.

One thing that I would recommend you to look into is the moving/hauling business. I've used this place -- http://www.soderflytt.se/ -- a couple of times, and the owner is Yugoslav. Serbian, unfortunately, so I don't know how that translates, or if they even need people, but it might be something. On the other hand I would generally recommend Malmö over Stockholm, so idk.

I suspect that you can probably get a job in the restaurant/night-club business doing dishes or helping out in the kitchen or whatnot, but I have no real clue as to how that actually works.

Lodgings is going to be the real problem, as any sort of even remotely decent place at a reasonable price is nigh on impossible to get, at least in the big cities, given the retarded levels of command economy, rent fixing and other nincompoopery that plagues our housing market. I wouldn't know where to even start looking for a place to stay from your position, tbt, but I guess you might try to keep an eye on http://www.blocket.se/, which is sort of a Swedish version of craigslist. People post personal ads about whatever, but unless you manage to get into some sweet commune or something it will most likely cost you a decent amount of money. Connections is really everything here, so I would suggest looking for other countrymen-in-exile to help you out.

One potential thing to do is to look for some exchange students to shack up with. They sometimes live a whole bunch holed up in a small student apartment -- against the rules, of course, but who cares -- to save on rent, and you might get some sort of a foot in through something like that. If you do enroll at the uni it might also even be possible that you could get pushed to the front of the normal student apartment line as you are a non-native. Our political class is hell-bent on running the country into the ground, so the state often tries to favor non-citizens.

There are probably smaller cities with an excess of apartments in their public housing projects, but I have no clue where. Also the labor market is obviously more limited in a smaller city.

Other than that you might try looking at couch surfing sites. There are obviously shelters, but I don't know much about how that works.

Most everything related to uni. ideas is a bit term dependent.

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Generally speaking, I wouldn't recommend it unless you're feeling adventurous.

[Flame]

Just a suggestion.

Do
Not
Drink.

All the people that are used to drink in theyr country, when they change climate they can't understand when they are drunk or not, cuz the effects are strongly different with the hot or the cold. Most of the people that comes here from a colder country, got drunk more easily and become alcoholic with such a fast. I knew few of them and it's always the same fucking trap. Good people with just a different climate and, of course, a good reason to get a glass more. But you're not in the same piece of world and everything is different.
Really. Friends of mine had problems with this trap.


Anyway i know someone that with 2k euros have left Italy all of sudden, reached Franch with hitch-hiking, sleeped under the bridges for some time searching for work/house, found a job and got a house. In few months.
...dont ask me How. Pretty crazy... but he was wake early in the morning, traveling the WHOLE french asking for a job. And he neither knew french language... XDD



If you're not sure to do it, don't do it.
If you think that this is you way to take your life back, equip yourself with LOT of Courage and Hope. Cry under a bridge is of no use. Sleep under a bridge is better, so tomorrow you can walk more, search more, talk more and find more.

Anyway and any choose you'll do... Good luck.

[MagicManICT]

And here I live in a country where imported brides aren't really considered a bad thing.

I really don't get why Canada has less racism/hostility towards immigrants when we're similar on most policies/attitudes with northern european countries otherwise.

Because you "started out" less homogeneous perhaps? Because Canada has been shaped by immigration to a much larger extent than Sweden?

Could you explain the anti-immigrant sentiment in the US, then?

@jorb: you make ME want to move to Sweden now.

[dagrimreefah]

You can always be a prostitute.

Nah just busting your balls no one would pay you. Good luck.

[dagrimreefah]

Could you explain the anti-immigrant sentiment in the US, then?

What anti-immigration sentiment? The sentiment that the media makes you think that exists but really doesn't?

[FFDreke]

Could you explain the anti-immigrant sentiment in the US, then?

What anti-immigration sentiment? The sentiment that the media makes you think that exists but really doesn't?

This ^

Americans really just dont give a fuck. Apathetic as hell, unless its right in front of them. Doesn't mean they won't bitch and holler at the tv and bar-rooms, but they won't do anything. The media knows this, and uses it to rile up people at tactical moments to control voting season. Your activist friends are showy, but they still shop at wal-mart, starbucks, and fast food chains. They're not behind their voice. So don't buy into it.

[Haba]

Hmmmh. Academic work abroad programs (AIESEC, IAESTE) maybe? I am not sure how strongly they are doing at the moment, but if you are university student, you should be eligible. Paid traineeships, the organizer takes care of finding you housing etc.

I can tell you that it will be tough without savings. If you're really determined, you could try couch surfing as alternative for accommodation while you look for a job.

[Xcom]

I would suggest getting in on the uni. racket. Hop on some course -- whatever, really -- and try to collect whatever CSN (http://www.csn.se/) money you might be able to get.

I believe the free uni for non sweed citizens was changed a few years back due to a large number of immigrants abusing this system. Now anyone that is not a Swedish citizen have to pay full tuishan to study in any of the university's. Costs can go up to around 70 000 Swedish kr per term. But I'm not 100% about it as it might have changed back to the free system like it was before.