Information about me. The face behind the griefer.

[Curudan]

Wait, What happened?
All I've heard about so far is that Laketown killed JTG. Is there something I missed?

1 - LAKETOWN DID NOT KILL JTG.
A character that people believe was played by jtg was killed by a group of characters that had Wanderer in it.

2 - The group was looking for another well known thief/griefer, but was unable to find him.

3 - Wanderer has put it out there that he's gunning for JTG. He's warned players that if they band together with him and make him their leader then they're taking on his reputation as their own.


Wanderer is NOT Laketown. He's our leader and his word carries a lot of weight, but each member is an individual and we have our own beliefs and actions.

Alright, thanks for the information. I'm sorry for assuming that Laketown was together in what happened.

[JTG]

Laketown hired rift to kill everyone in goonheim, rift fed me all of sami's personal information because nobody likes laketown, or sami. A win win situation.

Sami paid rift a metric assload because he was the cheapest person.

[commoner]

3 - Wanderer has put it out there that he's gunning for JTG. He's warned players that if they band together with him and make him their leader then they're taking on his reputation as their own.


Wanderer is NOT Laketown. He's our leader and his word carries a lot of weight, but each member is an individual and we have our own beliefs and actions.

Talk about a double standard.

[theTrav]

3 - Wanderer has put it out there that he's gunning for JTG. He's warned players that if they band together with him and make him their leader then they're taking on his reputation as their own.


Wanderer is NOT Laketown. He's our leader and his word carries a lot of weight, but each member is an individual and we have our own beliefs and actions.

Talk about a double standard.

It's not a double standard, it's perfectly internally consistent. You are applying wanderer's decision to all of laketown

[commoner]

3 - Wanderer has put it out there that he's gunning for JTG. He's warned players that if they band together with him and make him their leader then they're taking on his reputation as their own.


Wanderer is NOT Laketown. He's our leader and his word carries a lot of weight, but each member is an individual and we have our own beliefs and actions.

Talk about a double standard.

It's not a double standard, it's perfectly internally consistent. You are applying wanderer's decision to all of laketown

What you insinuated is that we are all the same as JTG because we happen to be in the same town as him by. You did not dispute the fact that Wanderer has tagged us all as griefmongers for learning how to play in the goon town. You, however, afterwards pulled the, "We don't all agree with what our leader says, and we're not the same person!"

Unless, of course, you don't agree with what Wanderer said about us taking on his reputation by association.

[theTrav]

What you insinuated is that we are all the same as JTG because we happen to be in the same town as him by.

no... I, TheTrav, separate entity with my own beliefs and dreams to Wanderer, did NOT insinuate that. Nor do I believe did wanderer intend to himself. I can't really know what's in his mind though so I could be wrong.

You did not dispute the fact that Wanderer has tagged us all as griefmongers for learning how to play in the goon town.

I believe what he said was more like "Now I've shown you how much I dislike JTG. You know what the deal is, if you don't cast him out, or if you follow him somewhere else, then you're on my list of enemies"... That's just how I read it, maybe he meant otherwise.

You, however, afterwards pulled the, "We don't all agree with what our leader says, and we're not the same person!"

Absolutely, I don't see how that's inconsistent.

Unless, of course, you don't agree with what Wanderer said about us taking on his reputation by association.

Sounds like you're starting to get it.

[commoner]

Then that horse is dead now that you've elaborated. Don't have to be so condescending.

I like that people followed us to the edge of the map for REVENGGEEEEE after we upped and left. That'll end well.

[Ferinex]

Then that horse is dead now that you've elaborated. Don't have to be so condescending.

I like that people followed us to the edge of the map for REVENGGEEEEE after we upped and left. That'll end well.

Who's following you, exactly? What happened to goonheim? Someone came in and started dropping bodies? You should alert the forums to these things, there are rangers and people who would be more than willing to stop serial killers.

[JTG]

You forgot the part where laketown has been offering people resources to kill goons.

Rift is the only one that took said offer.

[Colbear]

Then that horse is dead now that you've elaborated. Don't have to be so condescending.

I like that people followed us to the edge of the map for REVENGGEEEEE after we upped and left. That'll end well.

Who's following you, exactly? What happened to goonheim? Someone came in and started dropping bodies? You should alert the forums to these things, there are rangers and people who would be more than willing to stop serial killers.

No offense, but the community has made it pretty clear that as far as they're concerned, Goons are scum and deserve to die if they even THINK about playing with other people instead of all by their lonesome. Our body count's in the double-digits right now (I counted 5 or so newbie chars killed, and I got reports of about half a dozen to a dozen slaughtered at our new base) and we're being pretty consistently stalked (we're too low to have rangers ohnoes), and I'm sure Sami's going to jump on this to say, "you deserve it, you let JTG talk you into playing this game with him, so you deserve to die and you're all evil" or whatever.

But, anyways, we're starting to be a large percentage of the playerbase, but we're pretty much all less than a week old, and we can't defend ourselves -- that guy took out a half-dozen of us before we managed to run away, and one of our stronger guys lasted an entire four to five hits against him (no misses, I presume). Not one of us can hit him, because of the way combat is skewed, which means that most people are entirely able to saunter right into our town and kill every single person in it without being hit once.

We were apparently the first ones to make wine, we built a pretty (but undefended) town in a day or two, and started another one and got pretty far in a handful of hours, but all you guys are saying to us is "WOW WE HATE JTG WE HATE YOU TOO" and have backed up their talk with murder -- while people saying "I don't necessarily agree with them but I can't possibly defend you because other people don't like you..." aren't exactly backing us up with any behaviors.

We've got enough infiltrators (lolrite) that we are (as has been proven when we went literally all the way to the end of the map to play by ourselves) not allowed to play nice or have peace to build ourselves a nice little town. I mean, it was pretty funny. But it's not really funny in the long term when it's been made clear to us that it's going to happen repeatedly and that people have spent ten bucks to basically access all our secret clubhouse stuff and are going to use that information to mow us down at every opportunity.

Grinding is boring, newbies aren't going to join if they're not able to get their feet wet in peace (and they're not going to play if they have to solo without us either, because that's boring), and I sure as fuck don't want to play if I'm going to have my newbies turning to me all confused-like and going, "holy fuck I was making baskets for 2 hours in base and someone came and killed me wtf do I do now".

/sperg