me mad

[Kaios]

Cliffs are the broken system in almost all of these scenarios other than the island vaults imo. Maybe kill the problem at its root eh

[boshaw]

anyone can make a vault just like Klaue's without any Cliffs, islands or swamps. Actually the type of vault I'm referring to would be even better than Klaues since it would stop even raft rams from getting close to the walls and force the user to have to build up against the wall and wait the 24h.

[Kaios]

Well you can go build your impregnable vault and show it off I guess while everyone else discusses the issues people actually know about.

Wtf man.

[NaoWhut]

i could design a vault for you where you can't
use a raft to get a ram in anyway. A vault where
you HAVE to build the ram at my wall, and you
HAVE to stay there with it, and you can't build
a wall around your ram... just gotta redo seige
or i'll make my impenetrable fortress one day

[Kaios]

What you're saying is probably true but you know...Baby steps. One thing at a time, and currently a huge majority of vaults are built using a cliff or in a mountain so why not deal with the problem in that aspect?

I understand your need to undermine everyone's suggestions but really in the end you're only hurting the game its self because you're slowing down the process of rectifying the problems.

[boshaw]

Raft rams is cool and all but why not just lower the ram dry time instead? Less camping, more raiding.

[Dataslycer]

Raft rams is cool and all but why not just lower the ram dry time instead? Less camping, more raiding.

Intercontinental Ballistic Ram.

[WarpedWiseMan]

lol @ this 2 noobs... you heard about jorbonzola?
you heard about novaalpha?

just saying shit and (1)think he's god. (2)your as cool as warpedwiseman.

go and fuck your sister, but wait, (3)your gay.

I'd just like to add that it is impossible to be as cool as me. Physics will not allow that much awesome to exist in the universe. Sorry.

Also (1)thinking* (2)You're* (3)I'm*

[Sarchi]

Solution: Trebuchets and ballistas plus option to shoot flaming arrows.

Could also increase soak of ram so that you'd need 500 strength to destroy.

[Kaios]

Solution: Trebuchets and ballistas plus option to shoot flaming arrows.

Could also increase soak of ram so that you'd need 500 strength to destroy.

lol probably not 500, but I think it should at least be enough so disposable alts can't be continuously spawned on the fly until a ram is destroyed. This has happened to me before and sometimes you can't kill them fast enough if a few people are spawning alts constantly when you're trying to guard