Haversting other players' crops fields

[Inasmork]

Is it bad (illegal) if we harvest other players' crops fields but replant them? as long as it's not planted on their own land we can do that legally right? replant its position with one of the 2 seeds we get from harvesting?

[Potjeh]

It can be considered rude and technically illegal, but very few people will do anything about it, and if you ask for permission pretty much everyone will let you take seeds from his garden. Why, what kind of seeds are you missing? I can give you some later tonight at RoB.

[Inasmork]

oh by mistakes I meant to say not on their own lands! but surely it's players' put their time on planting those crops fields. Don't have thieving skill here to steal other's people hardwork and also let them know. I don't plan to.

Yeah I took some grape seeds (through eating them), some carrots, some wheat seeds, some tea seeds, some flax plants. But really I have tried my best to not doing too much harm, just a few of them each. And plant those a bit next to the crop fields the players has plant theirs.

I want to start farming, is there a good way to be sure our crops lands will not occupied by others in future?

[Malicus]

I want to start farming, is there a good way to be sure our crops lands will not occupied by others in future?

Somewhat unrelated, but... don't put your fields right on top of an existing public road for some idiotic reason. You're not the one who did this, but someone for some stupid reason fenced off part of my highway and "rerouted" it in an ugly fashion, then put a wheat field where the road used to be. It's road again now, that fence has a bunch of holes in it now, and I left a runestone expressing my feelings about that person's mental capacity. *fumes*

Sorry, had to get that out.

[sabinati]

harvesting a few plants of someone else's crop is no big deal if you replant it as far as i'm concerned.

[kobnach]

oh by mistakes I meant to say not on their own lands! but surely it's players' put their time on planting those crops fields. Don't have thieving skill here to steal other's people hardwork and also let them know. I don't plan to.

Yeah I took some grape seeds (through eating them), some carrots, some wheat seeds, some tea seeds, some flax plants. But really I have tried my best to not doing too much harm, just a few of them each. And plant those a bit next to the crop fields the players has plant theirs.

I want to start farming, is there a good way to be sure our crops lands will not occupied by others in future?

I presume you are fairly new, don't have yeomanry - or not enough LP for a large claim, and can't afford a large walled enclosure (palisade or brick wall). In that case, there's nothing you can do to be sure your crop lands will not be occupied by others. (Frankly, you can't be sure even if you do have all those skills, and plenty of LP - if e.g. Raephire or Blaze or Sami decided to steal my area, there'd be precious little I and my friends could do about it ;-() However, you can reduce the odds to a reasonable level.

First of all, don't set up too close to the RoB; most decent people won't destroy or steal what's obviously being tended - but very new players often don't know how to tell. Second, don't set up in a forest; it will reduce the hunting available, and certain players have been known to demand that folks with forest homesteads move them - and PK those who responded in ways they did not like. Fourth, talk to your potential neighbours, and make sure they don't object to your location - they may have wanted to expand that way, or see it as a convenient spot for a public woodlot.

Ok, now you have a site. Arrange your fields and other possessions in a clump, and possibly put a fence around it as a visible boundary, though that's inconvenient for people trying to cut across country. Keep things in good repair. Having an obviously maintained area will keep decent people from bugging you... the worst you'll get is crops harvested and replanted ... or people like me abandoning their unwanted hides on your drying racks.

Next step - learn yeomanry, put up a claim, and claim the whole area. It will take you a while to get enough LP to do so, so start with claiming an area in which you keep your possessions. Make friends with some large, quarrelsome people with good perception. That way, if someone robs you - including harvesting crops on claimed land - your friend can "reason" with them. Work on growing bigger and becoming your own combat oriented friend

Finally, when you are a lot bigger, build a palisade or brick wall around the whole thing. At that point you are reasonably safe from normal people - it would take a high level person to make trouble, and few of them would be motivated to do so - for crops anyway.

Alternatively, instead of finding a homestead of your own, find a village with people you like and trust, and ask to join them. many villages already have all the above advantages.

[Inasmork]

oh thanks for letting me know in advances, but the way I did it, next to his home ( the claimed land), there is a big road, I have starting to plow & plant on the other side of the road to make sure he has his own area when he wanted to expand his land and claimed his own crops fields.

[kimya]

it would be totally fine for me if i was offline. if i was online you probably asked and i gave you a lot more. youre very considerate, thats cool. have fun!

[Inasmork]

Thank you so much for the tips kobnach. I haven't meet people that settling down and speak with me for a long time yet. Don't know much about other's players village either. Yes I am a new player only know a few skills. Saving up LP now for yeomanry. About 2400 LP have yet to be save up.

As I have been typing up this post, I've slowly move my farming operation north where 2 apple trees are there. I heard some chopping trees noise when I walked to there but see nobody is chopping the apple trees. Should I concern?

Also there is a player who suddenly passedy by holding a beeshive, said it's a gift to me. He took that off somebody else location saying it's because that person is a jerk so he took that away from him... Should I place that beeshive to my land or just take it away to somewhere else (if so where?)

Thank you kimya, wish I know where is your farm operation.

[Malicus]

As I have been typing up this post, I've slowly move my farming operation north where 2 apple trees are there. I heard some chopping trees noise when I walked to there but see nobody is chopping the apple trees. Should I concern?

The chopping noise could also be somebody destroying an object, so I don't know if you should be concerned or not, either way.

Also there is a player who suddenly passedy by holding a beeshive, said it's a gift to me. He took that off somebody else location saying it's because that person is a jerk so he took that away from him... Should I place that beeshive to my land or just take it away to somewhere else (if so where?)

Beware of this. If they took it off somebody's CLAIMED land, then the original owner may track it back to you and decide that you are the one who stole it. Though when they find the item and the person who took it in two different locations, they may decide otherwise, but some people are quick to act. It's probably dangerous to keep around.