My impression of oxen driving

[pordle]

Ok, so it's not really me but a decent idea of what it's like to drive around all the stumps people leave behind. It's fun to drive them but my goodness does it make your wrist hurt to click click click turn around the bull to get around a tree to go reverse because you got a tiny bit of wheel stuck on anything. Sadly I think I'm losing speed on this thing vs walking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLKR9tCiwvA

So please , clear a stump and give the wood to a pirate in need of a leg.

[Goom]

Nothing quite like the relief of coming across a mudflat whilst driving a wagon. Ten seconds of heaven before the inevitable return of the tree nightmare.

[Sever]

Wagons aren't really meant for off-roading.

Not that roads are practical, but without them, you get this.

[aso11]

Wagons aren't really meant for off-roading.

Not that roads are practical, but without them, you get this.

Who says roads aren't practical *cough*

[Sotsa]

aso is insane

[Jacob_Lee]

Before justice caught up to our murder-happy lawspeaker dictator, who then fled the village, Terreciel (my village) had very, very long 5 tile wide paved roads going off to the north and west of our village. All for one wagon, and our bull, named Saxton Hale, was treated like a king.

So, yes, paved roads are practical if you have enough slave labor, I mean "voluntary" villagers.

[DatOneGuy]

Saxton Hale

[Reeyfer]

I've gotta say, its actually pretty easy if you get used to compensating for the lag. There is rarely a need to deviate far from any given compass direction when traveling, and I can make better time w/ a wagon and raft inside to most places than I could over water because of how so many rivers dead end and the systems are all isolated. I usually travel for a while constantly moving before I hit a snag, and once you get used to it those are easy to get out of, usually all you have to do is try pulling in a different direction slightly or "jiggle" the wagon around and it will come off. My only complaint is the lack of oak trees They're about the only thing to safely make camp behind for the night when traveling in a wagon. I've been going north for like three hours looking for a place to log off, stuck in fir and pine trees the whole way, never saw hint of other types of forest terrain.

I do agree it would be nice to have some sort of path finding conveyance eventually though. When(if)ever horses get put in it would be nice to see them capable of dodging obstacles on their own at decent speed. It'd also be cool to see horse archery, but that's another matter (:D). Would be neat too to have another vehicle that can do it, a chariot perhaps (not really the right area but those were used in a lot of the world before people figured out you could just sit on top of the horse and throw your javelins or poke with your spears instead of behind it) but it sort of makes sense to encourage wagons to use roads.

The wagon in general adds a lot to the game. As said its a very good alternative to boat travel - it takes a lot more attention to get where you're going but you'll probably do it faster if its any distance away because the difference in crossing water on a wagon and land on a boat is so great (and of course the bits of land you have to walk over are generally huge). Once you do you one good trip across a couple SGs in the wagon you ought to be able to really make some time on it. As an added bonus you can carry enough stuff for your character to live out of it if you've got large chests.

One REALLY nice addition to the game though would be some kind of stump pulling machine or tool that can fit in a wagon slot. Sometimes it really is just quicker to chop the tree down than go around an especially bad thicket, or more often the tree is blocking a pathway that will let you avoid going around a long cliff face or some other terrain feature. It would be very nice to just whip out the stump-o-matic, leash the bull to it, and yank that sucker out of there then get right back on your way. That would make carving wagon paths a lot more practical in general. Also the world (or at least the immediate area around cities) might not be so ridiculously overpopulated with never-decaying stumps.

[sabinati]

shovels aren't fast enough for you?

[Reeyfer]

I haven't been playing for a while. I built a shovel a while before my break but I don't remember using it on stumps. If its to stumps like pickaxe is to gathering rocks then great. I only used it for mass brick production, and since I was away a while w/ my busted computer my hf got destroyed and I got removed from the village. So I don't have any of the tools I had, I actually was milking my cows when the computer went down and I spawned in with not much but a couple buckets No pickaxe, sling, shovel, most of my jewelry and all my silver bars gone, all the wrought and steel I had made (what was left after all that which went into walls and armor and such for villagers) gone. Guess if I ever get around to setting up again somewhere before the next world I'll have to get me another shovel.