Recruit/Trade? Advice needed

[Amanda44]

Firstly; I am not an experienced player, i played w5 for 6/7 wks as a hermit before w6 started (during which time i died twice and got killed lol)
However, i love the game and put in excessive amounts of hours so advance quite quickly. I now have medium p claim (one red sq on minimap) and full change, nature, life & peace.

The problem now being i need char's to mine and to train in combat for protection should the need arise. (which it undoubtably will!) I don't want the bother of alts, my pc won't run dual control and standing around at the gate is just as risky as walking around with keys.

My flatmate played as a hermit in w5 and still managed after 8 months to have village, high stats and be skilled in all aspects including combat but he does have lap-top to run alt on. This time round he has group of nine players and is obviously progressing much faster.

My concern about recruiting is i'm not very talkative and don't want a bunch of immature ppl constanly chatting, not working and maybe raiding, griefing and generally causing trouble.

I want a peacefull village where what i say goes, lol

So, is trading the answer, does it work and how does it work? Advice please.

[min_the_fair]

One of my characters played as a full industry villageless hemit in w5. It can be done

The way she did it involved initially eating a lot of blueberries, chantrelles, pumpkins, fish and boar meat, but then she got a contract to supply another local hemit with wrought for a brick wall, getting paid in more exciting food items. Don't know how that would have worked out long term, the wall was juuust about to be built when it all disappeared But a farming hermit should be able to do the same, just buying different things.

It's possible to run a village on your own (one of my other characters did this when my co-villager went afk for a month), and of course makes trading significantly easier as well as improving security. If you can't hunt easily (boats are your friends!) getting the antlers for the claim may be difficult and possibly require local trading (yes, bears are easier to kill than deer). The catch is that you will need a Lawspeaker alt to get you back home if you trade (or make your main LS and have a trade alt, or for more security, both). As someone with a fairly old computer that isn't keen on multi anything, I do understand the problems, but I can usually manage to have two copies of the default client logged in for five minutes or so, and you shouldn't even need that long (to get a trader back home it goes: Login LS. Leave house. Open kin list, party the trader. Open government menu, oath of allegiance to trader's party icon. Go back into house and log out. The trader just has to accept the party and swear the oath before jumping back to their idol.). In some ways it's easier than keyalts because, being on different screens there is less chance of accidentally clicking to make the wrong one walk and ending up with the keyalt half way out of the gate, not that I have done that AT ALL today.

Oh, of course, you could do it totally solo and have the trader's alt jump to you. I never did that because my village's idol was really badly set up and on a pclaim that wasn't mine, so it would have been annoying to get them access.

[Amanda44]

Thank u so much for replying and in such a well written easy to understand way, i shall follow your direction and have an alt for trade, as it looks like i have to have one at some point to make life easier, i may as well develop it industry wise.

Its good to know u can still be successful and progress as a hermit, i was slightly concerned i'd get so far and then be stuck lol, i have been raising my char's mm in order to shoot from boat, metals were my main concern, but like u say, i can trade other way round when i can produce quality food items.

Again min, thx for your help and good luck in W6 : )

[Grog]

you can always do pumpkins as industryguy (the things wont get smaller then, i promise )

[Lahrmid]

You'd be surprised by how much progress can be made through raiding.

[bmjclark]

You'd be surprised by how much progress can be made through raiding.

Who needs to raise quality when you can just take someone else's!

[min_the_fair]

You'd be surprised by how much progress can be made through raiding.

The main problem with this is that raiding is a pretty co-operative enterprise, so if you're mostly hermiting quietly on a low-spec computer, the contact with others required to carry out a raid is likely to lead to a lot of lag, crashing, and a generally unsatisfying experience. Having people shout 'JUST FUCKING MOVE' at you is not helpful when you are looking at a little black screen that says 'Loading'; likewise people typing it at you in party chat will cause even more lag, joy.

But yes, once there abandoned hermitages around and you can train up someone to use a ram solo (yes, I realise that for some people this is not hard) it might be possible to get useful stuffs from a base of nothing more complicated than bunnies and chicken-bone glue. I'm guessing here that while the OP may get the capability to train up a palibasher, they're probably not going to want to.

[Lahrmid]

You'd be surprised by how much progress can be made through raiding.

if you're mostly hermiting quietly on a low-spec computer, the contact with others required to carry out a raid is likely to lead to a lot of lag, crashing, and a generally unsatisfying experience. Having people shout 'JUST FUCKING MOVE' at you is not helpful when you are looking at a little black screen that says 'Loading'; likewise people typing it at you in party chat will cause even more lag, joy.

But yes, once there abandoned hermitages around and you can train up someone to use a ram solo (yes, I realise that for some people this is not hard) it might be possible to get useful stuffs from a base of nothing more complicated than bunnies and chicken-bone glue. I'm guessing here that while the OP may get the capability to train up a palibasher, they're probably not going to want to.

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What?

[Zou]

He's trying to say that raids can be quite demanding on low-end computers.

[Eemerald]

raiding aside as a side hoobby to get stuff.

hermitting works fine. I set up a village in world 5 initially on my own and then started recrutiting people i met around my area slowly, then in the forums when need arises. I initially had two charachters i used both but at different times, my computer didnt function well with two accoutns running at the time also. One was full nature, the other full industry. so i could cover all aspects of a village. Quite demanding, but i was stupid and was doing more than i required at the time. so i reduced size of farms etc so there wouldnt be so much to do.

things do take longer as a hermit, as u dont have the help.
few ppl will join a village to sit quietly doing work because u tell them to, sadly. but some do not like the chatter and as long as theres a goal, are happy to just do things. recruiting ppl is pretty hit and miss though, you just need to be careful about who you take on.

never trade by allowing someone to idol jump into your main village. u can easily create an alt for trading, destroy their hf, and idol jump to villages for trade. most have a seperate village area for trades incase u end up with a stupid trader who will raid u or kill u. you should also not use your main charachter for trading.
maybe check out local villages and people and see what they will trade. i did this quite a bit at first, for better q equipment like slings. some bigger villages can just want things like bricks, bringing logs in, destumping their area, cloth for banners, etc. so u dont need high end stuff to trade for better stuff.

good luck:)