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Books with moral dilemmas/no obvious good-evil axis.

Postby Mateusz_Zboj » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:47 pm

I am just about to finish "Blood of Elves". (A. Sapkowski)
Just holy f... Usually fantasy books have obvious good vs evil plot... This doesn't. The author managed to create a world consumed by hatred spiral and cruelty (racial conflict between humans and the others)

So I just thought, do you know any good adventure/fantasy books with such problems? The tougher the better :) .
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Re: Books with moral dilemmas/no obvious good-evil axis.

Postby Avu » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:25 am

Prince of nothing trilogy by R. Scott Bakker the nature of free will, faith, loyalty belief, cause and effect, does the end justify the means, is manipulating nations and getting hundred of thousands dead in the process worth it if may or may not save the world. Best fantasy books if you want to think though I'll warn you there are no likeable characters none.

A song of ice and fire by George R.R. Martin has less moral problems but it does blurr good vs evil axis to the point where there is no such thing there's just people that either want power, to survive to be left alone and very very few to do the right thing.

Long Price quartet by Daniel Abraham no good or evil just good intentions and people that do the best they can in the situations they are in and sometimes it leads to very very bad results.

First law trilogy and connected books by Joe Abercrombie a typical cast of characters a veteran fighter, a young airy nobleman, a feral female warrior, a crippled torturer and a mage, a typical quest to find the artifact that will save the world, a typical bad guy or is it?
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Re: Books with moral dilemmas/no obvious good-evil axis.

Postby GreenScape » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:24 am

The Dark Tower series by S. King.

Starting from the first book - there's a lot of dilemas. He has to chose between the life of 11 years old boy and the goal of all his life, etc etc...
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Re: Books with moral dilemmas/no obvious good-evil axis.

Postby Potjeh » Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:35 pm

The Bible ;)
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Re: Books with moral dilemmas/no obvious good-evil axis.

Postby Bhuritengu » Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:31 pm

Potjeh wrote:The Bible ;)


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Re: Books with moral dilemmas/no obvious good-evil axis.

Postby tempwad » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:27 pm

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:I am just about to finish "Blood of Elves". (A. Sapkowski)
Just holy f... Usually fantasy books have obvious good vs evil plot... This doesn't. The author managed to create a world consumed by hatred spiral and cruelty (racial conflict between humans and the others)

So I just thought, do you know any good adventure/fantasy books with such problems? The tougher the better :) .


any books about vampires. Ann Rise series for example.
it is coflict between food and predators.
trapped? masturbate.
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Re: Books with moral dilemmas/no obvious good-evil axis.

Postby Mateusz_Zboj » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:43 pm

Potjeh wrote:The Bible ;)

Are you sure I can really read this as a metaphore?
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Re: Books with moral dilemmas/no obvious good-evil axis.

Postby Tonopah » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:12 am

Bhuritengu wrote:
Potjeh wrote:The Bible ;)


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