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★R-18 ★ Prostitution Law

Postby Tonkyhonk » Tue May 14, 2013 9:39 am

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Is prostitution legal or illegal in your country?
What about sex industry?
If it is illegal, do sex criminals get arrested accordingly?
What are the general views on the prohibition of such industry in your area?

I am NOT trying to discuss whether prostitution should be allowed or not.
I am curious how it is viewed overseas, and I am not trying to bring up some "feminism" talk either.
(but of course you may need to mention it to explain what is going on, and i wouldnt mind it.)

The background :
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/14/world ... -role.html
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/0 ... ZHpeaIqyE0
One of our outspoken politicians, Hashimoto, said to the press that it was understandable that soldiers in war time needed "comfort women" system. It is also said that he suggested an American base officer in Okinawa that american soldiers should make use of the Japanese "legal" sex industry to release their frustrations while stationed, to which I read that the officer replied as to "it is not legal in America". (and later Pentagon called it ridiculous or whatever and treated the suggestion with disdain.)

I did not know prostitution is generally illegal in the states till I read this article! (ok, except for nevada.)

To be completely precise, "prostitution" itself is also illegal in Japan, but it has a huge loophole since it is considered legal as long as you stay away from (or deny) "actual intercourse" and it prospers as "sex industry" here as many of you may know well from abundant info flooding into your country. (Many tourists actually do drop dollars on it.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Japan

To be fair, the said politician did not say that "sex slaves" were necessary, neither said american soldiers need them but instead said they could make use of the industry to decrease the obviously horrible rape incidents. The bottom line is that he thinks nobody could deny the human nature of wanting sex, and implying that just trying to teach soldiers not to rape women would not solve problems easily.

That does not mean I agree with him though. there are too many complicated issues to just allow such "suggestions" being made publicly imo.
But here in Japan, it seems many people do not find objections to the essential part of what he said, especially the human nature part, and comments vary, while all the English comments I find on each article are objections to it. (Of course only those who object would bother to post anyways.)

I read that some countries actually changed and legalized prostitution law recently. So, what is the case in your country?
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Re: ★R-18 ★ Prostitution Law

Postby bitza » Tue May 14, 2013 10:22 am

Tonkyhonk wrote:I did not know prostitution is generally illegal in the states till I read this article! (ok, except for nevada.)


LOL

the reason that the pentagon is saying "soldiers can't visit brothels" is more of an international image type thing, our soldiers are supposed to represent positive values and be upstanding, morally straight examples of the glory of US democracy and yadda yadda

so prostitution is "illegal" here in the US pretty much the same way marijuana is illegal. that is to say, as long as it's out of the public view, as long as it's not in everyone's face, it's mostly ignored. where i live (the dirty south/"god's country"), you still see plenty of massage parlors that stay open until 2 am, and "street walkers" - women standing on street corners in their freakin underwear if you drive through the slums.
just like marijuana, prostitution happens all the damn time here (just like everywhere else)

hell, it seems like about once a week, some senator or politician here is caught up in some sort of prostitution scandal
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Re: ★R-18 ★ Prostitution Law

Postby Arcanist » Tue May 14, 2013 10:31 am

Prostitution is legal in NZ
So long as all participants are aged 18+ (age of consent is 16)

We have brothels with big neon signs. There are laws about there they can be, much the same as liquor stores (have to be a certain distance from schools, preschools and churches ect.)
Before these laws were passed to legalise it, there were alot of hookers walking the streets, now there are very few. It seems most prefer a brothel.

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Re: ★R-18 ★ Prostitution Law

Postby painhertz » Tue May 14, 2013 12:11 pm

By Arata Yamamoto, Producer, NBC News

TOKYO -- The outspoken mayor of Osaka is under fire not only from the government but from members of his own party for saying that the use of “comfort women,” some of whom were forced into prostitution, during World War II was necessary for the morale of Japanese soldiers.
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Re: ★R-18 ★ Prostitution Law

Postby _Gunnar » Tue May 14, 2013 12:16 pm

I don't have any problem with a sex industry per se, but if you look closely at many examples, even ones that look relatively benign/tame [e.g. strip clubs in the UK], they are often really exploitative of the workers involved, which i do object to.

in the UK prostitution itself is not illegal, but various related activities are (including owning/managing a brothel). I would say prostitution is frowned upon, but strip clubs and things like that are widely accepted, even though in reality they are often essentially brothels where girls PAY the club for the privilege of "dancing" for customers [in private rooms...], for the possibility of a "tip".
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Re: ★R-18 ★ Prostitution Law

Postby Tonkyhonk » Tue May 14, 2013 12:41 pm

bitza wrote:the reason that the pentagon is saying "soldiers can't visit brothels" is more of an international image type thing, our soldiers are supposed to represent positive values and be upstanding, morally straight examples of the glory of US democracy and yadda yadda

so, you mean, its just a public principle that needed to be stated as a role model, instead of their real intentions?
would they actually agree to what he had said if they were not representing america? 8-) or would you? :p
ironically, the fact is that sex industries around american bases in japan are almost always prosperous. (im pretty sure some are already "utilizing" the industry anyways before even being suggested, no matter they deny it.)

just like marijuana, prostitution happens all the damn time here (just like everywhere else)

hell, it seems like about once a week, some senator or politician here is caught up in some sort of prostitution scandal

thats what i thought, but well, i dont hear that any of them being arrested in the states for breaking laws yet. (except for pedos and rapists)
btw, isnt marijuana legalized lately at certain states?


Arcanist wrote:Prostitution is legal in NZ
So long as all participants are aged 18+ (age of consent is 16)

Before these laws were passed to legalise it, there were alot of hookers walking the streets, now there are very few. It seems most prefer a brothel.

hey, that is really interesting! do people agree to allow prostitutions in nz in general then? what are the reactions of women there?
how did those laws get passed? was there any special incident to let people decide to legalise it all of a sudden?


painhertz wrote:TOKYO -- The outspoken mayor of Osaka is under fire not only from the government but from members of his own party for saying that the use of “comfort women,” some of whom were forced into prostitution, during World War II was necessary for the morale of Japanese soldiers.

nah, pain, it is the fail of the journalism and translation or interpretation of what he actually said and some end result of the political strategies. of course other parties want to damage him by nit-picking whatever he mentioned to make him sound as evil as possible and even the people in the same party do too for a reason. (not explaining it here cause i know you arent interested in politics in japan anyways.)

what he said "understandable" was not about the army forcing women into prostitution, but about the system itself based on mens demand, to have prostitutes along with armies, which was not supposed to involve abducting women to make them sex slaves. he did say he felt horribly sorry for those who were the victims of the incident and shouldnt have happened (but he also believes that official abductions for sex slaves were not proved to have happened yet). his point was that such rapes and sexual crimes had always happened in any wars by any nations. can you actually see the difference? people who are decently objecting to him are feminists saying he is looking at women as tools or such but they also ignore the essential point he had made.

_Gunnar wrote:I don't have any problem with a sex industry per se, but if you look closely at many examples, even ones that look relatively benign/tame [e.g. strip clubs in the UK], they are often really exploitative of the workers involved, which i do object to.

yeah, i know what you mean. sex industries are indeed a wormhole of illegal activities.
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Re: ★R-18 ★ Prostitution Law

Postby Arcanist » Tue May 14, 2013 1:05 pm

Arcanist wrote:Prostitution is legal in NZ
So long as all participants are aged 18+ (age of consent is 16)

Before these laws were passed to legalise it, there were alot of hookers walking the streets, now there are very few. It seems most prefer a brothel.

hey, that is really interesting! do people agree to allow prostitutions in nz in general then? what are the reactions of women there?
how did those laws get passed? was there any special incident to let people decide to legalise it all of a sudden?
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It was basically legalised to

1. Stop young girls becoming criminals, and to take a bit of pressure off the prison systems and police
2. Collect revenue, hookers and brothels now have to pax taxes.

It was legalised in 2003, by the labour Government. They lost a lot of voters because of this, and many (stupid) women still won't forget about it. Labour lost the next election.
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Re: ★R-18 ★ Prostitution Law

Postby Flame » Tue May 14, 2013 1:36 pm

I live in the Church Reign. No it's not called Italy, i call it Church Reign, 'cuz everything a little different form what the church says, is automatically banned from Italy.

So, obviously, prostitution is illegal.
And the Mafia is fucking happy of it, he can sell prostitution at higher prices!! 8D


So, if it become legal will be better than illegal. People need to have sex, that's not so weird. If people don't think it's bad, the woman will not feel it bad or "dirty, evil" and will not be gulty of anithing.
So, what woman thinks is what the people thinks.
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Re: ★R-18 ★ Prostitution Law

Postby Theos » Tue May 14, 2013 1:54 pm

In a state that looks down on gays, deports/secretly kills mexicans, conservatively "tries" to keep drug use down and practically has no blacks whatsoever, you can imagine there aren't that many prostitutes in arizona...
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Re: ★R-18 ★ Prostitution Law

Postby bitza » Tue May 14, 2013 2:22 pm

would they actually agree to what he had said if they were not representing america?


no. i can say with a very good degree of certainty that if US military command didn't prohibit it, GI Joes in your country would be humping everything that moves (if they aren't already :lol: )

Theos wrote:In a state that looks down on gays, deports/secretly kills mexicans, conservatively "tries" to keep drug use down and practically has no blacks whatsoever, you can imagine there aren't that many prostitutes in arizona...


i'm guessing that you live somewhere in maricopa county? i've never been to arizona, but i've lived in/visited many major US cities and i have yet to see one that doesn't have both thriving drug and prostitution trades.

i'm also curios as to what "no blacks whatsoever" has to do with prostitution, or anything else
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