H&H: The hottest game this summer.

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H&H: The hottest game this summer.

Postby StarChaser » Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:57 am

So it's summer time here in the Great Southern Deathland. And when ever I play H&H the CPU turns molten hot.
My computer has crash twice before from over heating, but today it took the cake.
H&H seized up, I couldn't swap windows to complain about it on IRC. I moved my mouse to the side bar that scrolled out from the right of the screen.
The CPU temp read 89C... I immediately hit Alt+F4 20 times and ran to the freezer to shove my laptop inside. It dropped 30C in 20 seconds.

I think the moral of the story is... I should get air conditioning. :P

Any other south landers had any trouble with over heating while playing H&H?

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Re: H&H: The hottest game this summer.

Postby Seizure » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:08 am

Did you really toss your laptop in the freezer? That cannot be good for it...
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Re: H&H: The hottest game this summer.

Postby StarChaser » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:11 am

Neither can 90 degree heat. I just needed to cool it down enough so it would unfreeze and I could shut it down safely.
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Re: H&H: The hottest game this summer.

Postby Seizure » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:12 am

Yes, but such quick changes in the temp can cause the solder to crack and most likely compound the problem :oops:
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Re: H&H: The hottest game this summer.

Postby loftar » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:29 am

StarChaser wrote:H&H seized up, I couldn't swap windows to complain about it on IRC. I moved my mouse to the side bar that scrolled out from the right of the screen.
The CPU temp read 89C... I immediately hit Alt+F4 20 times and ran to the freezer to shove my laptop inside. It dropped 30C in 20 seconds.

Technically speaking, 89° C isn't really that much for solid state electronics. My old computer (with an Athlon XP CPU, yeah, you know...) commonly ran at that temperature, and it showed no sign of decay of the course of a couple of years -- and neither should it, it's silicon after all. That said, it isn't normal for a laptop to do that, but mostly because a) it's designed not to become that hot for reasons of comfort and b) they usually draw a lot less power than a desktop system in order to preserve power on battery (and also because Li-Ion batteries can actually decrease a lot in lifespan because of high temperatures). My observations are threefold:

1: Even though laptops aren't supposed to get that hot, it shouldn't be a problem for the electronics themselves. In fact, ACPI monitors the system temperature and should shut the system down if it exceeds threshold conditions. If your system really becomes unstable, as you state, in spite of that, there may be something else wrong with it.
2: It may be an indication of faulty cooling. Laptop fans can easily become clogged with dust in my experience, so you may want to check its air duct(s).
3: If you've got one of those gaming laptops, it may actually be normal for it to reach those temperatures while it's running on low power preservation. When I've run my graphics card to the max, even my (non-gaming) laptop has reached temperatures not far from it.
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Re: H&H: The hottest game this summer.

Postby kimya » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:41 am

yes, clean your fan. i once had a 1-2 mm thick layer of dust on the cooling grid... when playing HnH the laptop crashed after a couple of minutes. it was summer, too.
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Re: H&H: The hottest game this summer.

Postby StarChaser » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:46 am

Well as I said, it is summer here. In winter I usually don't exceed 50C with that particular computer.
Yes the cooling on the laptop in question has a very poor cooling system. The intake is on the base of the computer which only works well when the laptop itself is propped up (Which I have solved with 4 drink bottle lids :P).
The fan itself is fairly poor quality itself and I plan on purchasing a cooling pad when I can find a cheap one or just make my own.
It also only sends air past the CPU and then straight out the side, but as said, the fan is low quality and doesn't draw much air.

And the fan is clean. My desk never has dust on it anyway. :P

Re: OMG UR COMPUTERZ IS GONNA BREAK FROM TEH FREEZER!

"Throwing it in the freezer" was more for comical and story telling effect anyway. I actually held it about 20-30cm above the freezer (It's one of those deep chest style freezers. Good for hiding dead bodies in) and let it suck up the cooler air to let the system restore to a speed at which it will function enough so I could power it down.
I have checked the system and it functions fine.
Besides, if any solder did crack I could probably reflow it by leaving it in the sun for 5 minutes. :P (Which reminds me to do that right now with a laptop that actually doesn't work and needs reflowing...)

EDIT: Thought I should mention that I'm not actually going to reflow a laptop in the sun. :P
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Re: H&H: The hottest game this summer.

Postby Lightning2 » Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:32 pm

my computer is at 100 C but it never managed to explode :)
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Re: H&H: The hottest game this summer.

Postby NaoWhut » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:54 pm

Mine melted trough the floor o.o....
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Re: H&H: The hottest game this summer.

Postby Bjørn » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:21 am

StarChaser wrote:Neither can 90 degree heat. I just needed to cool it down enough so it would unfreeze and I could shut it down safely.



Putting it in the freezer for unfreezing?
Oh, the irony!
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