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Goons: The negros of Haven and Hearth

Postby JTG » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:47 am

Yes, We goons are infact the negros of haven and hearth. We have been referred to as the growing darkness, this is the rich white man, stereotyping us to keep us from ever playing in his game.

flyingpear wrote:Today's destruction of the Zarekim settlement by Sami, Wanderer, or WHOEVER did it was news to me. I was thrilled to know that someone had killed JTG/Goku, as he was the only one of the group who was able to draw my blood. Yes, the Goons drew FIRST blood while I was fishing. It was a gang attack. Regardless, I tracked their filthy thief stink to the new settlement, and exacted justice. I struck a blow for myself, my property, my friends and theirs, and all the free people of the Hearthland who have had ENOUGH of the griefing in this game. I struck a blow to show the evil players, and those who aid and house them, that there is at least one left who is not afraid to stand up to the growing darkness.


They do not want us to play at all, If we won't be their slaves.

ferinex wrote:Alright, so, you are saying we aren't doing anything to help you, when we can. You're right. We can. We could invite those goons who want to play legitly into our cities to live behind our walls, and frankly, I'd do it. I would. But those walls aren't just protecting me, they are protecting other citizens too. I happen to know these citizens and will talk to them about bring in immigrants, even if we need a designated refugee area for you to live in separate from us. I'm speaking of Stillmeadow, by the way.

My only other point I have to make right now: I warned many goons as they entered the game to disassociate themselves with JTG/Goku. I told them this would happen, that the rest of Haven would not accept them, and end up genociding them. That is what's happening right now, a goonicide.


They want the leaders dead. So they may use us as fodder for their own personal greed.

niltrias wrote:However, I will say that associating with JTG is like putting a target on your forehead. Thats not a threat from me, by any means, just a statement of fact. JTG has griefed, theived, and generally infuriated a LOT of people, and will likely continue to do so in the future. Many of his future victims will track him down; some will limit their actions to his person, but many will also inflict collateral damage. This kind of thing will happen independent of which towns like you or which towns dont, or whether sami likes you, or anything else.

So live with whoever you want, but if its JTG, don't whine about it on the forums when angry Haveners come knocking on your door looking for their stuff. Its going to happen.


They do not want to be blamed, for their actions. So that they may look like sympathizers, to better save face at crucifying the movement.

thetrav wrote:1 - LAKETOWN DID NOT KILL JTG.
A character that people believe was played by jtg was killed by a group of characters that had Wanderer in it.

2 - The group was looking for another well known thief/griefer, but was unable to find him.

3 - Wanderer has put it out there that he's gunning for JTG. He's warned players that if they band together with him and make him their leader then they're taking on his reputation as their own.


Wanderer is NOT Laketown. He's our leader and his word carries a lot of weight, but each member is an individual and we have our own beliefs and actions.


Goons are the negros of haven and hearth. The white man says he likes us, so that the other white men accept him. But deep down he only wants us as his slaves, or for us to not be alive at all.
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Re: Goons: The negros of Haven and Hearth

Postby niltrias » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:49 am

This...doesn`t even make sense.
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Re: Goons: The negros of Haven and Hearth

Postby DarkestLite » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:49 am

Viva Goontopia.
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Re: Goons: The negros of Haven and Hearth

Postby flyingpear » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:49 am

It might not seem like it, but I have always liked you JTG.
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Re: Goons: The negros of Haven and Hearth

Postby Krantarin » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:51 am

Why do you call yourselves goons?
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Re: Goons: The negros of Haven and Hearth

Postby Colbear » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:52 am

Krantarin wrote:Why do you call yourselves goons?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goon

Members of the Something Awful forums (known colloquially as "Goons")

Because it's funny.
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Re: Goons: The negros of Haven and Hearth

Postby niltrias » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:53 am

flyingpear wrote:It might not seem like it, but I have always liked you JTG.


LOL I so did not see this coming.
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Re: Goons: The negros of Haven and Hearth

Postby flyingpear » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:55 am

niltrias wrote:
flyingpear wrote:It might not seem like it, but I have always liked you JTG.


LOL I so did not see this coming.


I'm serious. I secretly admire his conviction. JTG is a dying breed of player - the sort that logged into the first UO, grabbed a butcher's cleaver, and made history.
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Re: Goons: The negros of Haven and Hearth

Postby sabinati » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:15 am

One the one hand, JTG has helped the game and the community as a whole in a lot of ways, subtle though they may be. Yes he and his "goons" have stolen and killed and other crimes, but the system is designed for this kind of activity. But if nobody ever steals or kills other players then there is no way to develop the mechanics for this kind of interaction. You have to look at the bigger picture. More players=a more robust system. Issues like security for your items will eventually be resolved, I'm sure. If the devs don't address the issue directly I'm sure some clever player could come up with a banking system that would help to secure some of your more valuable items. In the end, I'm sure there will be systems in place to secure the things that you hold dear, just like there is in the real world.

On the other hand, he misspelled nigger.
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Re: Goons: The negros of Haven and Hearth

Postby theTrav » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:20 am

sabinati wrote:One the one hand, JTG has helped the game and the community as a whole in a lot of ways, subtle though they may be.


Nah, he's forced the dev's to fix a bunch of bugs and flesh out the crime, defense and ownership parts of the system instead of making new content.
We could have had cheese making weeks ago if it weren't for him, we could all be chilling in bigger houses, riding mounts, fighting critters with path finding and harvesting multiple tiles at once with cool ass scythes if it weren't for him.

He's a pushy little shit who doesn't give a crap about other people, not a boon in any way no matter how polite and positive J&L are.
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