it's not fun to be murdered by tryhards

[Ozzy123]

Yeah I think this guy is just trolling at this point

[miyu]

I doubt anyone is interested in "debating" or whatever with you, you're ill-informed and objectively wrong, and your hilarious defiance appears to make trying to talk to you pointless.

what is there to debate when you can't answer a question and only give bits of information. this thread is 7 pages and I'm trying to learn but everyone just gives half-answers, insults and all that instead, took a few pages just to get out of people the drowning thing
how many more pages until someone explains how did my friend get murdered without being in Murder if your understanding of the wiki is the correct one? is that another hidden quirk of the game that needs certain setup or an exploit?
I understand that deep water bad to get KOed in, but what else there is to avoid getting murdered without involving water?

[Audiosmurf]

I doubt anyone is interested in "debating" or whatever with you, you're ill-informed and objectively wrong, and your hilarious defiance appears to make trying to talk to you pointless.

what is there to debate when you can't answer a question and only give bits of information. this thread is 7 pages and I'm trying to learn but everyone just gives half-answers, insults and all that instead, took a few pages just to get out of people the drowning thing
how many more pages until someone explains how did my friend get murdered without being in Murder?

If you're for real, you're just one in a procession of entitled sprucecaps that parade through here periodically pissed off about their own mistakes. The reaction you're getting is merited, and especially so based on your reaction.

[miyu]

I doubt anyone is interested in "debating" or whatever with you, you're ill-informed and objectively wrong, and your hilarious defiance appears to make trying to talk to you pointless.

what is there to debate when you can't answer a question and only give bits of information. this thread is 7 pages and I'm trying to learn but everyone just gives half-answers, insults and all that instead, took a few pages just to get out of people the drowning thing
how many more pages until someone explains how did my friend get murdered without being in Murder?

If you're for real, you're just one in a procession of entitled sprucecaps that parade through here periodically pissed off about their own mistakes. The reaction you're getting is merited, and especially so based on your reaction.

my own mistake that I don't know how the game works on a code level to understand all the exploits, bugs, and quirks? yea, it is my mistake and I never said it's not. but it is unreal to expect that of a player, especially someone who just started this world with their friends that played before

[The_Blode]

shh

[miyu]

I doubt anyone is interested in "debating" or whatever with you, you're ill-informed and objectively wrong, and your hilarious defiance appears to make trying to talk to you pointless.

what is there to debate when you can't answer a question and only give bits of information. this thread is 7 pages and I'm trying to learn but everyone just gives half-answers, insults and all that instead, took a few pages just to get out of people the drowning thing
how many more pages until someone explains how did my friend get murdered without being in Murder?

Alright, listen. You're a dipstick and I'm using an insult because your first response was to call others botters and incite a ban against them. Don't preach civility if your first move is to shriek like a child. But I'll help you out.

-What your friend SAYS has no bearing on anything. He isn't some authority figure, developer, or god. If he's overruled by people with thousands of posts discussing this game, tough titties.
-YOU CANNOT BE KILLED UNLESS YOU HAVE MURDER ACTIVATED. MURDER ALLOWS YOU TO MURDER ANYONE ELSE WHO IS ATTEMPTING TO MURDER. ALL NON-MURDERY PLAYERS HAVE KNOCKOUT PROTECTION THAT ALLOWS THEM TO TELEPORT ONCE KO'D

Thank you for your time

ok thanks, I'll try again and hope it works

[Zyean]

I doubt anyone is interested in "debating" or whatever with you, you're ill-informed and objectively wrong, and your hilarious defiance appears to make trying to talk to you pointless.

what is there to debate when you can't answer a question and only give bits of information. this thread is 7 pages and I'm trying to learn but everyone just gives half-answers, insults and all that instead, took a few pages just to get out of people the drowning thing
how many more pages until someone explains how did my friend get murdered without being in Murder if your understanding of the wiki is the correct one? is that another hidden quirk of the game that needs certain setup or an exploit?
I understand that deep water bad to get KOed in, but what else there is to avoid getting murdered without involving water?

If youre serious then its because his hard hp hit 0, you can still be killed if youre wandering around with low hhp, concussions can do 5-20% of your max hp and players hits inflict wounds on you as well, further lowering your hard hp, if youre below 50% hard hp and wandering outside your base and someone rolls up on you, you have a decent chance to kick the bucket, honestly below 70-80% can be spooky even

[miyu]

I doubt anyone is interested in "debating" or whatever with you, you're ill-informed and objectively wrong, and your hilarious defiance appears to make trying to talk to you pointless.

what is there to debate when you can't answer a question and only give bits of information. this thread is 7 pages and I'm trying to learn but everyone just gives half-answers, insults and all that instead, took a few pages just to get out of people the drowning thing
how many more pages until someone explains how did my friend get murdered without being in Murder if your understanding of the wiki is the correct one? is that another hidden quirk of the game that needs certain setup or an exploit?
I understand that deep water bad to get KOed in, but what else there is to avoid getting murdered without involving water?

If youre serious then its because his hard hp hit 0, you can still be killed if youre wandering around with low hhp, concussions can do 5-20% of your max hp and players hits inflict wounds on you as well, further lowering your hard hp, if youre below 50% hard hp and wandering outside your base and someone rolls up on you, you have a decent chance to kick the bucket, honestly below 70-80% can be spooky even

hmhm, that's a really good tip thanks a lot! so at 90-100% I should be relatively safe from that then

[vatas]

As long as you don't activate murderous rage, no player will ever be able to attack you while you're KO'd.

They can still reverse-pickpocket leeches into you and hope you don't notice, this can easily kill you as character's reaction to running out of Soft Hit Points is to dive face first to whatever surface they're standing on, resulting in additional Concussion damage.

As long as you have the Murder skill, and KO someone in a murderous rage, you can continue attacking them until they die

This sentence is absolute garbage, I can't really blame anyone for interpreting this "Evil player has murderous rage = evil player can attack you even when KO."

I will try to fix it but can't come up with foolproof alternative right now. EDIT: entire section with that sentence nuked off the wiki.

[Zyean]

hmhm, that's a really good tip thanks a lot! so at 90-100% I should be relatively safe from that then

Generally speaking, players deal 40% of the damage you take as HHP damage, sometimes less depending on a number of factors but assume 40%, murderous rage boosts that to 60% but of the downside of being able to be killed when you get downed

So if someone without murderous rage hits you for all of your hp, you lose 40% of your hhp and 5-20% from a concussion, if someone hits you for 90% of your hp and then 100% of youe max hp on the second hit, you lose 36% from the first hit and then 40% from the second hit and then 5-20% from the concussion, your damage taken cannot exceed your HHP, its literally impossible to die if youre full hp even if youre unlucky and take a max concussion roll unless they murderous rage and guess your hp correctly