Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Dakkan » Sat May 19, 2018 5:08 am

LadyGoo wrote: Hafen is like a movie filmed on basis of some classical book that is being offered to porn addicts. :lol:

That's the best way I've ever heard it phrased.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Finigini » Sat May 19, 2018 7:54 am

jorb wrote:
LadyGoo wrote:Young people are not that into this type of games


I think you are wrong, but if you aren't then there is not much point in further development of it.


Considering the type of games that are trending, I would say that maybe this isn't the kind of game that resonates with a lot people. Haven is different without a doubt. Unique gameplay attracts niche audiences, but I think that's fine. I would like to imagine a world where so many people play Haven that Loftorb would have to take that into account. Imagine a Haven world so populated and with the architecture to support it that being a hermit is actually uncommon.

I'm pretty young, and there are some members of the community who are as well. There must be something about us that attracts us to this game. Out of all the people in the world who play games, only some of them play MMOs. There are different speeds of games as well. Fast games are all about winning, dying so that you can come back to life and die again until you kill everyone, or some immediate playfulness that grips the player. Haven is a slower game by necessity because everything you do in the world is permanent and therefore significant. Those who enjoy fast games seem to not understand this idea, or they simply do not care for it.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby LadyGoo » Sat May 19, 2018 9:23 am

When I've first started in W3, we had a very big village that would consist of mainly school kids and uni students. It's not because we were recruiting that way, but the available population. Right now, we've got the much older population in a faction that is interested in recruiting and getting new combatants. The new available recruits were also much older than we would used to see several years ago. A lot of the players came here after the games like Fallout, Ultima, Eve and etc. which made them adapt to Hafen easier.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby azrid » Sat May 19, 2018 12:01 pm

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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby GamingRAM » Sat May 19, 2018 1:51 pm

LadyGoo wrote: A lot of the players came here after the games like Fallout, Ultima, Eve and etc. which made them adapt to Hafen easier.


So Jorb and Loftar should advertise to D&D players? Games with a heavy emphasis on stats and grinding?
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby LadyGoo » Sat May 19, 2018 2:10 pm

GamingRAM wrote:
LadyGoo wrote: A lot of the players came here after the games like Fallout, Ultima, Eve and etc. which made them adapt to Hafen easier.


So Jorb and Loftar should advertise to D&D players? Games with a heavy emphasis on stats and grinding?


Quite the opposite. It's not about advertising, but taking into account that their audience is much older and has less time. This is why I am encouraging automatization of things or mechanics for ctaching-up if you have quit at some point and want to return back.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby wonder-ass » Sat May 19, 2018 4:47 pm

LadyGoo wrote:Quite the opposite. It's not about advertising, but taking into account that their audience is much older and has less time. This is why I am encouraging automatization of things or mechanics for ctaching-up if you have quit at some point and want to return back.


jorb and loftar might as well make alting a game mechanic because it cant be fixed. and for automation too much will just turn this game in to resources management game.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby LadyGoo » Sun May 20, 2018 2:05 am

wonder-ass wrote:
LadyGoo wrote:Quite the opposite. It's not about advertising, but taking into account that their audience is much older and has less time. This is why I am encouraging automatization of things or mechanics for ctaching-up if you have quit at some point and want to return back.


jorb and loftar might as well make alting a game mechanic because it cant be fixed. and for automation too much will just turn this game in to resources management game.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby vatas » Sun May 20, 2018 8:02 am

Some degree of farming automation should be implemented, in similar vein to how Survey Land and Study Table help to make terraforming and studying bearable without having to resort to botting. I've been meaning to make independent topic of this but haven't figured out how this would exactly work. Looking at Survey land Soil Stockpiles, maybe it wouldn't be too unreasonable to do same with beets/carrots and their respective stockpiles.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby MagicManICT » Tue May 22, 2018 10:59 pm

Yeah, I'm definitely not getting any younger. I might be dead in a few years.

Personally, would rather see some of the mechanics issues fixed before a reset.
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