Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby WilliamWallace » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:52 am

xiaotaozong wrote:I very much hope that the world will reset

Same here..Summer holidays just started and I would like to start playing again..There are too many old places on this world..
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby iamahh » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:41 pm

"I need wipe so I can play 1 month and leave again to become a forum whiner"

you can be your own wipe, no one will siege you unless you have no idea what you're doing
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby xiaotaozong » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:43 am

Expected server reset after World Cup
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby MightySheep » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:45 am

shit game
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Pinkie-Pie » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:47 pm

I thought I'd give a little pep talk to those wanting a new world, specifically thoes thinking a new world will let their group 'catch up' with large, powerful groups like DiS, Emerald City, HH ect.

Here's the short version: It won't.

Here's the long~ A new world will indeed start everyone back to all 10 base attributes and level 1 skills. But I do not think you understand how quickly things will develop. How dedicated you will have to be to have your group remain a front runner on the world stage. First of all, if you have fewer than at least 10 people, not 10 accounts, 10 human players: forget it. It takes human planning and cooperation to be a large and powerful faction. I'd even venture to say 10 is too few. On top of that will not be able to compete for the top spot without botting. Things like harvesting trellis plants that take a human a few extra seconds to do they add up in faction v faction.

Claims will be up the first day. Palisades will be up the second or third day. And even if you manage to become an early power you and your entire group will have to work your asses of to stay that way and even then if you don't have enough people, again actual collaborating human players, you will still be outpaced by more efficient role distribution.

So if the reason you want a world reset is that you think it will be a free ticket to a top spot in the next world, think again.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Omnipotent » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:54 am

Pinkie-Pie wrote:I thought I'd give a little pep talk to those wanting a new world, specifically thoes thinking a new world will let their group 'catch up' with large, powerful groups like DiS, Emerald City, HH ect.

Here's the short version: It won't.

Here's the long~ A new world will indeed start everyone back to all 10 base attributes and level 1 skills. But I do not think you understand how quickly things will develop. How dedicated you will have to be to have your group remain a front runner on the world stage. First of all, if you have fewer than at least 10 people, not 10 accounts, 10 human players: forget it. It takes human planning and cooperation to be a large and powerful faction. I'd even venture to say 10 is too few. On top of that will not be able to compete for the top spot without botting. Things like harvesting trellis plants that take a human a few extra seconds to do they add up in faction v faction.

Claims will be up the first day. Palisades will be up the second or third day. And even if you manage to become an early power you and your entire group will have to work your asses of to stay that way and even then if you don't have enough people, again actual collaborating human players, you will still be outpaced by more efficient role distribution.

So if the reason you want a world reset is that you think it will be a free ticket to a top spot in the next world, think again.


I don't think anyone is asking for a reset and expecting to one of the top players. Anyone who has played at least one world from beginning to end knows that being one of the top is a pipe dream. But this world has been explored and farmed so hard, that nearly all of the best spots (quality wise) were claimed long ago.

We're now 1751 days in, and the average active player has very high stats. If you're just looking to get into HnH now, you already know you don't have any chance to compete with the top players. They're basically gods compared to anyone who starts now. Even if you just sat there and ate Meat Pies all day, you'd never have a chance to catch up to the people who have been active the entire time. Even if you botted all day every day.

It's one of the biggest problems this game has IMO. The time the world has been alive for directly correlates to the average skill level of each player you ever encounter. There are always the wildcard examples like a random newb that just joined where this gets skewed in the other direction. But for the most part, the longer the world is alive, the more stats each person will likely have. New players usually don't want to join when they *know* there are titans out there who can 1-shot you whenever they want just because they have been playing longer. So to keep the game fun for new players you either need to restart the world, or start up another world alongside the current world.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Granger » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:10 am

Omnipotent wrote:So to keep the game fun for new players you either need to restart the world, or start up another world alongside the current world.
Or change the mechanics to some that don't endlessly inflate the numbers anymore, then people could join late in a world as reaching the levels of day 1 characters would be possible.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:24 am

Omnipotent wrote:We're now 1751 days in, and the average active player has very high stats.

And here lies the problem with a reset at this time. Nothing has been fixed here, no word if the mechanics behind this are ready to go. 30 days into the new world, it's going to be the same ridiculous quality levels. (Ok, probably not that fast, but some of this problem has come up over the course of this world, and wasn't here at the start.)

Granger wrote:
Omnipotent wrote:So to keep the game fun for new players you either need to restart the world, or start up another world alongside the current world.
Or change the mechanics to some that don't endlessly inflate the numbers anymore, then people could join late in a world as reaching the levels of day 1 characters would be possible.


Not enough people for another new world. Might as well just wipe the current one and reset. Look how many bother to play legacy. I'm sure it's just enough to keep it going, but... not really (at least in my opinion).
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby azrid » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:57 am

I have been playing all world and you can catch up to me.
I know this because I caught up to myself in a couple of weeks on a new character.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Aceb » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:08 am

azrid wrote:I have been playing all world and you can catch up to me.
I know this because I caught up to myself in a couple of weeks on a new character.


Half true, half not. I can agree that some people were able to catch up very decently. Maybe not in terms of titan stats but pretty much close enough in terms of Q.
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