Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Hypno_Crab » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:30 pm

wonder-ass wrote:wiping the world will literally do NOTHING but repeat w10. fix all the shit thats broken first then reset. otherwise i doubt many players will come back to yet another broken world, and i believe jorb knows this so no point in asking for a reset. wont be coming anytime soon.

All people need is repeating w10 lel.
How do you see this game? What gameplay do you like? Increasing crop quality from 300 to 500? This is senseless junk.
I really like new mechanics and i love developers of h&h for supporting the game and adding something new constantly. But unfortunately new kinds of animals, crops or plants doesn't change anything. This is permadeath baseraiding game. Like you can't change game basis by adding new pvp mech. This game always was a race between competitive players and this game is made for them.

All the fun happens in the first month or two when you are planting your first crops to build a beehive :) When you're fishing not to die and when you're building your base with your friends. When you decide who will be a miner and who will be a farmer, forager and so on... When you live to grow faster and try to overgrow your neigbours to be strongest.
Permadeath games like that are a race from the beginning to dominance over your area. You can't change that without removing permadeath + making bases unraidable.
Quick reminder: at the start of W10 there were 1.5k-2.5k online. Now it's 200. So the most part of players of this game are that kind. They come to play the best part and leave when game comes boring or when they get killed/raided. So if you change this mechanics - you will loose your main crowd, and online will be constantly 200. The good thing world won't need wipes anymore :D
So following ideas and wishes of these 200 players you loose 2k players (ofc i mean proportion 1 to 10). I don't wanna talk about commerce but is that wise to loose your followers? You got lot of people who want to play hard and ask for a wipe but little part of players don't want to loose their crops 1258 quality and don't want to grow them again so you continue making the game infinite grind with no sense.

As an example there is a game called "Rust". It has absolutely same game mechanics with base raiding, killing people to get stuff and crafting. Servers there get wiped every 1 or 2 weeks. At server start they have const 200 online each server + over 50 people qued for hours to get to server and start playing all together from 0. But after 3-4 days when people "loose" - most of them leave and online drops to 60-80 people. After new wipe it's 200+ again. That's a perfect example of server mechanics for such games. I know the life cycles here are much longer so you can take "6 months" or so and set rules for every new world to keep people playing the game and that makes people come back again and again so serv pop won't drop below 500. Plus everyone who wants to quit game always know when to come back to start over and make new "perfect startup plan".

I was playing h&h since w5 and i really love the game it became but every time after first 3-6 months of game i quit and wait for next wipe to start playing again with pleasure. Because at the timeline of 6 months starting from 0 is absolute pain and suffering without any rewarding. Gameplay doesn't bring you that much pleasure because there is no competition + you have already "lost the game". It's like playing versus cheater who can kill you whatever you do :) That makes all you do in game senseless.

I always come to check info at forums about world wipe and i'm really excited awaiting new world to start. I didn't post anything before but really it's the first time when the game developers don't want me to play it :D Please respond me and many many players awaiting for SOME info. Let's start some dialogue please. Share us your thoughts, probably your true fans can help you making h&h great again!
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Hypno_Crab » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:45 pm

There could be a really interesting game system with regular world wipes like:
Every world lasts for X months.
During the game there could be challenges like "horse riding" or "hunting" or something else. Also there could be "achievement list" like "the best fisherman" or "top miner" and so on. Getting these done you could get shop coins which you can spend for 1 week of premium or a cool hat :)
That would grow interest to shop so some people would donate to game and some people would be playing more to get that. People would stay even after they got wiped to get coins for next wipe to have a smoother start and so on.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby ctopolon4 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:48 pm

here just should be 2 servers (permanent and test), test server should be wiped every month (2)
atm we are playing at the test server with fully broken mechanics already 2 years
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby wonder-ass » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:07 am

ctopolon4 wrote:here just should be 2 servers (permanent and test), test server should be wiped every month (2)
atm we are playing at the test server with fully broken mechanics already 2 years


yes lets split the already tiny player base in 2. great idea
see homo sexuality trending,. do not do that.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby ctopolon4 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:45 am

wonder-ass wrote:yes lets split the already tiny player base in 2. great idea

who loves early game or bored in perma world could rush from 0 at any test server restart (its like second valhalla its not split player base)
also its good to test new mechanics like CHARISMA or COMBINED CURIOS or SPITROAST ASH 100% at the test server first, not at main
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Overion » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:28 am

ctopolon4 wrote:here just should be 2 servers (permanent and test), test server should be wiped every month (2)
atm we are playing at the test server with fully broken mechanics already 2 years


Yes, we have long understood that you live in this game, swung yourself a bunch of characters and do not want anything to change, you're the king of the hill, the punisher. In your reasoning, you do not cite absolutely any arguments, you just chat about what is comfortable for you, but this is only one side and completely selfish without objectivity. This world is in stagnation, many people like you do not want anything to change, prepay developers, it's all so clear. But it is absolutely clear that now there is no point for newbies and just wanting to return to the game to start playing again, because as kings of the hills, how you feel is very important to the rest, this is the main reason why this world has been around for about two years.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Hypno_Crab » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:02 am

ctopolon4 wrote:here just should be 2 servers (permanent and test), test server should be wiped every month (2)
atm we are playing at the test server with fully broken mechanics already 2 years

Why do you call the mechanics broken? It had been working fine since w5 (didn't play earlier). I Enjoyed every world. What's wrong for you?
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby ctopolon4 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:16 pm

Hypno_Crab wrote:
ctopolon4 wrote:here just should be 2 servers (permanent and test), test server should be wiped every month (2)
atm we are playing at the test server with fully broken mechanics already 2 years

Why do you call the mechanics broken? It had been working fine since w5 (didn't play earlier). I Enjoyed every world. What's wrong for you?


eat at 0% hunger from food, x20FEP (sumbel,drinks,kingdom,donate) x8FEP(spices (laurel, truffle, pepper = x2x2x2 ))
its not boken? OK ¦] 300FEP from cheese x20 x4 (truffle pepper) => 24k FEP per 0,0004% hunger
200kk LP per 1 teleport between quest trees also not broken meta
suicide and abandons are best way to get all credos, aslo not smells like broken?
alot alt and bot abuses (like forge metal with no skills alt for max chance for cast iron)
claiming rare reosurces, raids with "cascade falling" in 8+1hrs, and etc bugs...What's wrong for you?
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Hypno_Crab » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:29 pm

ctopolon4 wrote:
Hypno_Crab wrote:
ctopolon4 wrote:here just should be 2 servers (permanent and test), test server should be wiped every month (2)
atm we are playing at the test server with fully broken mechanics already 2 years

Why do you call the mechanics broken? It had been working fine since w5 (didn't play earlier). I Enjoyed every world. What's wrong for you?


eat at 0% hunger from food, x20FEP (sumbel,drinks,kingdom,donate) x8FEP(spices (laurel, truffle, pepper = x2x2x2 ))
its not boken? OK ¦] 300FEP from cheese x20 x4 (truffle pepper) => 24k FEP per 0,0004% hunger
200kk LP per 1 teleport between quest trees also not broken meta

Ever heared of balance?
It's about changing numbers instead of rewriting mech. Like if x2 is too much leading you to x20FEP - change it to x1.1 (110% instead of 200%). So 1.1x1.1x1.1 = 1.331. Deal?
Or probably increase hunger cost from 0,0004% to 0,5% or 3%.
Is that all? Solved all problems u typed in 3 sec +- coffe drinking time.
It's about balancing numbers bro, not about mech itself. Tell me something truelly meaning about mechanics itself!
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby ctopolon4 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:34 pm

solved? already 2 years not solved some some that i have posted
and wipe characters who abuse that to much, after your balance, because new char will not able to get so much stats that way anymore
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