Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Astarisk » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:38 am

Granger wrote:Fully automated production, isn't it?


Actually surprisingly less than one may figure. My food production was done mostly entirely by hand. Milking my cows took 30 minutes every 2 days or so. I spent 30 minutes to an hour just moving cheese around a day. Used Romovs tray filling script to put curd into the trays. Had timers set up in the client for reminders. Only real bot was a simple farming one that several clients on the forum has. But that just saved me an extra hour a day at most. I still did my grape farming myself, fed all my cows, sheep, pigs and chickens one barrel filled cart at a time.

Making bots takes time, I didnt even wanna put time into making oscypki because it takes 4 damn weeks to make. Would take me just as long to make the bot than it would be to do the task. And though its hard to believe, some of us do like playing the game.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:20 am

shubla wrote:Lies.
Few hours of mining to get a pneck? 10k lp/h within first week?
lol no


I realize literally everything you, and Overion say is insincere and for your own amusement, but I'm bored too : P

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Slow buy price for pearls is 12 GQ.
Double that for a fast buy, and ask some string+crafting be thrown in and suddenly you've a decent Pneck for 240 GQ

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500GQ for two decent RoBs. You could likely barter for a better deal, but let's go with this for a total of 740 GQ

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4 GQ for 3 cast. 555 cast iron for these the lot. It's not entirely uncommon to find more than this in abandoned villages lol





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These were the first easy curios I could think of, I'm sure there's a better combination. Note that no metalworking curios are included.
The sheet assumes a softcap of 0 on everything.
The sheet assumes rocks/animals/etc are all Q10, but realistically 200+ is an average find in abandoned villages, and Q350-400 chickens are fairly cheap. Q60-70 rocks are common on L1.
LP/Hour would drastically increase during the week as your softcaps were increasing.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby banok » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:54 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:...Lastly, I'd point out that I think late world is a more desirable place for you to be because people like Ardennes would be rushing rage/bronze swords early world to kill people like you and steal your Q10 bluebells/whatever during the brief period people who don't know what they're doing can actually produce things with value. Nowadays everything you own and your skull probably isn't worth the scent.


but conflict is engaging, losing characters and/or bases are often when I've been most compelled to play haven/salem. surviving without bronze sword sounds lame and easy.

its most desirable to me when there is action and lower grind barrier to entry. I guess this game isn't really designed to my tastes, its about grinding behind brick walls, then searching 10 hours to gang bang people.

but then games like rust are too much in the opposite direction, respawn and rejoin fights, server reset every month. If only someone could make a game thats between the two extremes, but until then I will watch for when haven servers reset.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby shubla » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:08 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:
shubla wrote:Lies.
Few hours of mining to get a pneck? 10k lp/h within first week?
lol no


I realize literally everything you, and Overion say is insincere and for your own amusement, but I'm bored too : P

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Slow buy price for pearls is 12 GQ.
Double that for a fast buy, and ask some string+crafting be thrown in and suddenly you've a decent Pneck for 240 GQ

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500GQ for two decent RoBs. You could likely barter for a better deal, but let's go with this for a total of 740 GQ

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4 GQ for 3 cast. 555 cast iron for these the lot. It's not entirely uncommon to find more than this in abandoned villages lol





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These were the first easy curios I could think of, I'm sure there's a better combination. Note that no metalworking curios are included.
The sheet assumes a softcap of 0 on everything.
The sheet assumes rocks/animals/etc are all Q10, but realistically 200+ is an average find in abandoned villages, and Q350-400 chickens are fairly cheap. Q60-70 rocks are common on L1.
LP/Hour would drastically increase during the week as your softcaps were increasing.


Mining 555 cast iron with brand new character takes a lot of time for a new character.

I only believe your claims if you prove them by playing, recording the whole thing, not with some shitty spreadsheets.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby SnuggleSnail » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:34 pm

banok wrote:


I'd agree to most of that, but my thing was more directed at Overion/players extremely unaccustomed to Hafen. Early world competition doesn't treat people like that well.

shubla wrote:



You don't come off as a self aware clever trickster
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Overion » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:11 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:
I'd agree to most of that, but my thing was more directed at Overion/players extremely unaccustomed to Hafen. Early world competition doesn't treat people like that well.



You're probably just kidding me, I won't help to believe that people who graduated from school are not able to solve a simple mathematical problem.

I have not seen a single argument in your posts, and even more so in the crowing of local cockerels in defense of their fairy-tale little worlds, where they consider themselves to be someone important.

I explain the simplest mathematical logic and I can hardly believe that most of those who play this game have not completed primary school.

"There is a problem, one of the pedestrians walked from point A to point B an hour ago, at a speed of five kilometers per hour, followed by another pedestrian three hours later going from point A to point B, at a speed of five kilometers per hour. The question is, after what time the second pedestrian will catch up with the first, if it is known that point A is the start of a new world, and point B is a wipe of a new world."


All your arguments are reduced only to the fact that “YOU HAVE FORGOTTED TO DO SHOES! YOU NEED URGENTLY LOOKING FOR WHAT A FOOT! HERE YOU CAN REMOVE THE DEAD, WHO DIDN'T COULD GET TO THE END, OR BUY FROM OTHER PEDESTRIANS, WHO GOES AHEAD, OR GET TO OTHER PEDESTRIANS, WHO GOES FUTURE
Only you have forgotten one thing BUT that they continue to go at the same speed and will continue to go, even if you get something, you will still go at the same speed and cannot catch up.

All the arguments referring to the dead - they are hopelessly outdated and will not help you in your race, and as for the purchase of worn items, then know that those who wear them have more excellent things that they will never sell you. Therefore, the most stupid reasoning on this topic can be closed only by solving the simplest mathematical problem of an elementary school and I do not know why your logic is so weak to understand that in the game there is no limit to the statuses, in principle you cannot catch up with anyone who continues to play and pays enough time of the game, in days twenty four hours and more you will not be able to play than is possible.

In order to overtake someone you need an ultimatum acceleration, such as cheating, such as an airplane, but the game does not offer such options.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby wonder-ass » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:16 pm

Overion wrote:
SnuggleSnail wrote:
I'd agree to most of that, but my thing was more directed at Overion/players extremely unaccustomed to Hafen. Early world competition doesn't treat people like that well.



You're probably just kidding me, I won't help to believe that people who graduated from school are not able to solve a simple mathematical problem.

I have not seen a single argument in your posts, and even more so in the crowing of local cockerels in defense of their fairy-tale little worlds, where they consider themselves to be someone important.

I explain the simplest mathematical logic and I can hardly believe that most of those who play this game have not completed primary school.

"There is a problem, one of the pedestrians walked from point A to point B an hour ago, at a speed of five kilometers per hour, followed by another pedestrian three hours later going from point A to point B, at a speed of five kilometers per hour. The question is, after what time the second pedestrian will catch up with the first, if it is known that point A is the start of a new world, and point B is a wipe of a new world."


All your arguments are reduced only to the fact that “YOU HAVE FORGOTTED TO DO SHOES! YOU NEED URGENTLY LOOKING FOR WHAT A FOOT! HERE YOU CAN REMOVE THE DEAD, WHO DIDN'T COULD GET TO THE END, OR BUY FROM OTHER PEDESTRIANS, WHO GOES AHEAD, OR GET TO OTHER PEDESTRIANS, WHO GOES FUTURE
Only you have forgotten one thing BUT that they continue to go at the same speed and will continue to go, even if you get something, you will still go at the same speed and cannot catch up.

All the arguments referring to the dead - they are hopelessly outdated and will not help you in your race, and as for the purchase of worn items, then know that those who wear them have more excellent things that they will never sell you. Therefore, the most stupid reasoning on this topic can be closed only by solving the simplest mathematical problem of an elementary school and I do not know why your logic is so weak to understand that in the game there is no limit to the statuses, in principle you cannot catch up with anyone who continues to play and pays enough time of the game, in days twenty four hours and more you will not be able to play than is possible.

In order to overtake someone you need an ultimatum acceleration, such as cheating, such as an airplane, but the game does not offer such options.


why is this retarded hermit nobody that just started playing the game talk like he knows what hes talking about to OG's that have played this game for years?
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Overion » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:23 pm

wonder-ass wrote:
Overion wrote:
why is this retarded hermit nobody that just started playing the game talk like he knows what hes talking about to OG's that have played this game for years?



Have you solved the task of a cackling cockerel, or will you find excuses for your ignorance and plush fantasies?

Learn to read and think about the question before writing such garbage. Then talk about theoretical possibilities, about how you can achieve, and not about who is worthy and who is not.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby wonder-ass » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:43 pm

you do realize you can get good stats with a decent set up right? you dont need TOP NOTCH set up and q it just makes your life easier if you do have it.
some hermits that casually play have like 4k/5k stats if they had grinded they couldve ez bin 10k+ and thats with out a faction factory.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:12 pm

Overion wrote:Learn to read and think about the question before writing such garbage. Then talk about theoretical possibilities, about how you can achieve, and not about who is worthy and who is not.

One of the wisest things I have seen written here for some time.

You know, sometimes the wildest discussions bring out some of the most insightful tips for the newer players.
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