PvP Highlights

[abt79]

next time someone tries to kill my character in super smash brothers or league of legends I should paypal them money so they stop, then get angy and vaguely threaten them irl when they don’t stop

[SiobhanRikan]

What makes haven unique is how brutal it is and how you can get fucked or fuck others just because of missing knowledge, lack of friends or effort. I like villains and bullies in the game because it's a sandbox so they should be free to do what they want, fair pvp is rare (in reality too) and if you care an dislike that much about others doing small pp behaviour you have all the mechanics to do what you want for revenge/raiding etc. roleplay as hearthland police force?

I don't get why people whine and complain when they get fucked or
see others getting rekt knowing how the game works it's what you signed up with. You consent to this by playing the game uwu

Perhaps jorbtar ain't clear about what the game offers so sprucecaps and hermits don't have the correct expectation coming in, they should use sheep's and snail's video as trailer to be honest.
Or yall just want the game to change lol to be more regulated with safe zones for spruces, hmmm, the KO mechanic is already so forgiving compared to what I know before.

Brutality is not unique to Haven. Your argument to allow/encourage brutality just because you *can* is like saying that a big brother should be allowed to break his little sister's arm, eat her dinner, break down her bedroom door, steal all her games, toys, and snacks, and break anything he doesn't take, just because he was born first.

If the game is a sandbox where you want me to respect their form of play, shouldn't they afford me the same respect and allow me to play my way. I'm obviously not the only person who wants to enjoy the non-PvP aspects of the game.

I wouldn't be in this discussion if all that happened is our characters got KO'd as you suggest. But that's not what happened. Half of us were wiped out completely, gates destroyed, characters killed, everything stolen including stacks of crops, study desks, cupboards of curios and food, all seeds. Please enlighten me on those mechanics for 4 low level players to retaliate against a large faction like that?

Btw, did I mention that the faction in question would have been censored if their comments were put in this forum? Racial slurs, misogyny, and even saying the holocaust victims deserved what they got. You know you're at their base when the map shows a swastika next to a Star of David. There is no other game where that behaviour is tolerated. But evidently here it is to be praised?

So my next question is: why did Jorb and Loftar put in all the skill trees, quests, exploration, credos, etc., for things other than Trespassing, Rage, and the like, when the game is supposed to be all about brutality? As with most games, people will find ways to enjoy a game their way. Is it too much to ask that we respect each other's way of playing? Pick on someone your own size who wants to PvP and leave the peaceful folks alone. Or give us a way to make our own servers so we can sandbox it our way.

[wonder-ass]

didnt read + skill issue

[Kaios]

What makes haven unique is how brutal it is and how you can get fucked or fuck others just because of missing knowledge, lack of friends or effort.

How exactly do those things make it unique? Those are all negative aspects from my perspective. If you play Path Of Exile, does playing Hardcore SSF Ruthless make the game itself more unique? Or are you perhaps confusing "more unique" and "more challenging" with each other.

[Apocoreo]

The brutality is for people that can do it, the rest are victims. why should you be able to retaliate against a big faction :V maybe that would make it a better game but that isnt the game youre playing

All you lost is time. Comparing it to broken bones or stolen food, lol

[solisalias]

Brutality is not unique to Haven. Your argument to allow/encourage brutality just because you *can* is like saying that a big brother should be allowed to break his little sister's arm, eat her dinner, break down her bedroom door, steal all her games, toys, and snacks, and break anything he doesn't take, just because he was born first.

It is quite unique, I don't know any other mmo that offers this much freedom and pvp where you can do criminal acts to this extent. I don't get why you compare gamez to real life maybe you need to compartmentalize.

If the game is a sandbox where you want me to respect their form of play, shouldn't they afford me the same respect and allow me to play my way. I'm obviously not the only person who wants to enjoy the non-PvP aspects of the game.

It goes both ways, others want their form of play too. If you know you can't win just move elsewhere that's quieter? I don't know what's hard about that.
You cannot do non-pvp aspect in haven, you walking around existing in game cutting trees and making leantos or shit bases in game is already infringing other players freedom, what if ideally I want my area neat? What if I wanted my base on your spot? What if I wanted to cut that particular tree first? You just messed with my game and pvped me lol I hope you get what I mean.

I wouldn't be in this discussion if all that happened is our characters got KO'd as you suggest. But that's not what happened. Half of us were wiped out completely, gates destroyed, characters killed, everything stolen including stacks of crops, study desks, cupboards of curios and food, all seeds. Please enlighten me on those mechanics for 4 low level players to retaliate against a large faction like that?

This could be avoided entirely by scouting your area for hostiles and staying hidden until you get dry claim + palisade with visitor gates before you actually collect and build stuff on your base.
The stuff you lose are most likely shit quality including young characters with low stats and LP, you can easily make new characters and catch up in no time it's just what a 4-5 weeks into new world?
There are 4 of you smh, I was alone at world start with no friends yet I managed to not die or get griefed in any way because I did my due diligence. Your group didn't.

[solisalias]

What makes haven unique is how brutal it is and how you can get fucked or fuck others just because of missing knowledge, lack of friends or effort.

How exactly do those things make it unique? Those are all negative aspects from my perspective. If you play Path Of Exile, does playing Hardcore SSF Ruthless make the game itself more unique? Or are you perhaps confusing "more unique" and "more challenging" with each other.

IDK I just feel like there is no mmo that can replace haven still hahaha

[DonVelD]

Brutality is not unique to Haven. Your argument to allow/encourage brutality just because you *can* is like saying that a big brother should be allowed to break his little sister's arm, eat her dinner, break down her bedroom door, steal all her games, toys, and snacks, and break anything he doesn't take, just because he was born first.

ur being emotional rn, its a game nigga not real life just turn off the screen bro

if you think killing someone in a game is just as bad as eating a kitten alive then i have bad news for you - its not

So my next question is: why did Jorb and Loftar put in all the skill trees, quests, exploration, credos, etc., for things other than Trespassing, Rage, and the like, when the game is supposed to be all about brutality? As with most games, people will find ways to enjoy a game their way. Is it too much to ask that we respect each other's way of playing? Pick on someone your own size who wants to PvP and leave the peaceful folks alone. Or give us a way to make our own servers so we can sandbox it our way.

ask yourself this question, why did he add trespassing rage and the like if it shouldnt be a brutal game




tldr; ur a fucking noob u 911 victim

[SiobhanRikan]

ur being emotional rn, its a game n**** not real life just turn off the screen bro

Look up the name Siobhan and call me bro again? And the n word? You have proved to me why a discussion with some of you is like arguing with an unarmed opponent. When you can't articulate your thoughts, just curse and call people names. Maybe that's why you beat people up in games; because you don't have the intelligence to do anything else.

ask yourself this question, why did he add trespassing rage and the like if it shouldnt be a brutal game

So that the murder monkeys could go beat each other up and let the rest of us enjoy the rest of the game.

tldr; ur a fucking noob u 911 victim

I used to answer 911 calls. You have no idea what is really going on in the real world.

[Nightdawg]

Can't even have pvp threads without people crying about pvp existing in a pvp game any more

@Jorb it's been like 2 years since you said "I will mod some more people in the following month".