PvP Highlights

[Aerona]

Can't expect losing players to be happy and not complain when there are winners who don't care whether losers are happy or if they complain. Sportsmanship trickles down, good or bad. It's just the chickens coming home to roost.

In the wider world, gamers unite against bad actors even when it's a burden, expensive, or might hurt their chances of winning, because (at least, at the institutional level) they've learned those who don't will get so bogged down by scandals, infighting, retention and recruitment difficulties the real winners will be those who help one another to excel, experiment, and entertain - including those not on their team - not the ones who cover their eyes and ears when there's a load of bullshit going on and label it 'someone else's problem', unrelentingly beat their rivals into submission, or twist the knife at every opportunity. There's plenty of little niches left over where the latter might thrive, but focus on the 'little niches left over' part. It's a very limited kind of 'success'.

[Kaios]

IDK I just feel like there is no mmo that can replace haven still hahaha

I agree with that but certainly there are more unique factors than simply player A can lose everything because new/inexperienced.

Can't even have pvp threads without people crying about pvp existing in a pvp game any more

@Jorb it's been like 2 years since you said "I will mod some more people in the following month".

Welcome to my world. I realize it’s a bit hypocritical to say that while also participating in taking the thread off-track but why do you think I stopped posting threads altogether. They couldn’t even bother to moderate a thread in which I was literally giving away tokens.

[Apocoreo]

You have proved to me why a discussion with some of you is like arguing with an unarmed opponent. When you can't articulate your thoughts, just curse and call people names. Maybe that's why you beat people up in games; because you don't have the intelligence to do anything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13leWIjgdmo

[Fr_Dae]

May "Just a few clowns" get all they deserve, including a visit from the police, because I now have their PayPal account information.

You have blueberries in your eyes

Hi, there,
I'm curious, what interest do you find, you who have spent so many hours playing to understand the mechanics of pvp,
to come and kill new players, naked in the plain?

You'll have no challenge, no good fights, no valuable loot, and no great conquests.
You'll just break the neck of a newborn squirrel, what for?

With a few friends, we discover the game, which is basically a game of survival, exploration and long-term crafting.

when we've got weapons and gear, why not come and play pvp and conquer other lands. but first things first, eh?

You just risk massively disgusting players to play, to become good and who could become future opponents.

Playing an mmo alone is sad.

ps: Anyway, I've sent you a message on the forum, please reply when you have two minutes, I'd like to have a chat with you.

[Halbertz]

Sprucecaps deserved everything that happened to them.

[SnuggleSnail]

Hope this helps

edit:
You might also wanna check out this guide for the near future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA_AVBAFagw

[KwonChiMin]

You might also wanna check out this guide for the near future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA_AVBAFagw

o7

[Massa]

What makes haven unique is how brutal it is and how you can get fucked or fuck others just because of missing knowledge, lack of friends or effort. I like villains and bullies in the game because it's a sandbox so they should be free to do what they want, fair pvp is rare (in reality too) and if you care an dislike that much about others doing small pp behaviour you have all the mechanics to do what you want for revenge/raiding etc. roleplay as hearthland police force?

I don't get why people whine and complain when they get fucked or
see others getting rekt knowing how the game works it's what you signed up with. You consent to this by playing the game uwu

Perhaps jorbtar ain't clear about what the game offers so sprucecaps and hermits don't have the correct expectation coming in, they should use sheep's and snail's video as trailer to be honest.
Or yall just want the game to change lol to be more regulated with safe zones for spruces, hmmm, the KO mechanic is already so forgiving compared to what I know before.

Brutality is not unique to Haven. Your argument to allow/encourage brutality just because you *can* is like saying that a big brother should be allowed to break his little sister's arm, eat her dinner, break down her bedroom door, steal all her games, toys, and snacks, and break anything he doesn't take, just because he was born first.

If the game is a sandbox where you want me to respect their form of play, shouldn't they afford me the same respect and allow me to play my way. I'm obviously not the only person who wants to enjoy the non-PvP aspects of the game.

I wouldn't be in this discussion if all that happened is our characters got KO'd as you suggest. But that's not what happened. Half of us were wiped out completely, gates destroyed, characters killed, everything stolen including stacks of crops, study desks, cupboards of curios and food, all seeds. Please enlighten me on those mechanics for 4 low level players to retaliate against a large faction like that?

Btw, did I mention that the faction in question would have been censored if their comments were put in this forum? Racial slurs, misogyny, and even saying the holocaust victims deserved what they got. You know you're at their base when the map shows a swastika next to a Star of David. There is no other game where that behaviour is tolerated. But evidently here it is to be praised?

So my next question is: why did Jorb and Loftar put in all the skill trees, quests, exploration, credos, etc., for things other than Trespassing, Rage, and the like, when the game is supposed to be all about brutality? As with most games, people will find ways to enjoy a game their way. Is it too much to ask that we respect each other's way of playing? Pick on someone your own size who wants to PvP and leave the peaceful folks alone. Or give us a way to make our own servers so we can sandbox it our way.

we added a rainbow

[dafels]

From videos where you say you "killed" somebody, all you do is KO. Is this some kind of coping mechanism?

[MightySheep]

AD had some drama and split into 2 half- 1 half tried to ask for help against the other half so we went there and helped him escape from felix then drowned him

AD in SHAMBLES +1 Brazilian dead