The Laws of Brodgar

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Re: The Laws of Brodgar

Postby Yolan » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:12 pm

Etienne wrote:Even though I'd have liked to see some way for citizens to propose a law (or a change to an existing one)(while such would indeed not belong in the law pertaining to the lawspeaker's duties I think 3 might make any law granting citizens the right to propose a law impossible) and don't see the use of 3.3 it seems good enough to me.
I vote in favor of the proposed law 1 (or "aye").

Also I'd like to have had several other laws before or simultanious to this one or at least very soon, especially laws on what is and isn't allowed (I don't think there is currently any way of punishing someone for theft of city property, for instance, and many other things that shouldn't be acceptable).


Yes, there is a bit of a gap just now. I certainly won't be waiting until this one is passed before I put forward more. As we are yet a relatively small place, I think that we can get along for the time being by sticking to the Oaths as a guide.

Note that there's nothing wrong with citizens suggesting laws, its just that its up to the lawspeaker to actually table a formal draft for consideration. Its in the best interests of the lawspeaker to consider such requests if he/she wants to be re-elected in the future!

I suppose 3.3 is there to ensure that the executive is kept in the loop about what is going on.
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Re: The Laws of Brodgar

Postby XkrikX » Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:36 pm

methinks aye
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Re: The Laws of Brodgar

Postby bladerdave » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:19 pm

I say Aye.
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Re: The Laws of Brodgar

Postby theTrav » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:13 am

AYE.

If the executive branch is going to be expected to take any enforcement role then it is going to be of great benefit to know what the laws are in detail and have early input
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Re: The Laws of Brodgar

Postby Yolan » Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:44 am

Citizens of Brodgar, I present to you a second law for your consideration.

VOTING: AYE OR NAY

CLOSING DATE: 14 days (IRL) hence.

Only votes from those living in or nearby Brodgar, who consider themselves a citizen, please. In the near future, I will put forward a census law so we can better secure the foundations of this democracy. It is a little bit of reverse chicken and egg, but that is unavoidable.


=== LAW II - PERTAINING TO THE OFFICE OF CHIEFTAIN ===

1) As the commander of the executive branch of the state, the Chieftain of Brodgar had ultimate responsibility over both domestic and foreign policy, as well as the treasury.

2) In terms of responsibility over domestic policy, the Chieftain has the power to decide matters that effect the general day to day running of the city. Such matters include, but are not limited to:

- Keeping a census of city residents.
- Setting zoning plans for the layout of the city
- Appointing, when necessary, citizens to official office for purposes of city management.

The Chieftain may exercise a fair level of discretion in making these decisions, with the proviso that any particular decision does not violate an established Oath or Law.

3) In terms of responsibility of foreign policy, the Chieftain is in charge of the establishment and management of relations with other powers of the land.

3.1) The Chieftain has the power to table a declaration of war on another settlement, town or group of people. The declaration must first pass majority vote with the citizens, after a minimum public consultation of three days IRL. This requirement is waved if war was first declared on Brodgar by a foreign faction. The public need not be consulted before a declaration of peace is made, providing that no indemnities are to be paid by Brodgar as part of a peace settlement.

3.2) The Chieftain is responsible for asserting the territorial rights of Brodgar, and securing adequate land for its future expansion. In such cases where non-citizen hearthlings are impeding necessary expansion, their land may be appropriated under direction of the Chieftain. This must be a last-resort option, and adequate compensation to affected parties must be provided.

4) The Chieftain is the holder of ultimate responsibility of Brodgar's treasury. It is the Chieftain's duty to ensure that taxation is carried out according to established laws and collected finances are safely stored.

4.1) A clear record is kept of money or valuable goods coming in and out of the treasury. This record must include both the sums of money involved, and the reason. A treasury report should be produced periodically (once every two to three months IRL), and openly presented for public inspection at that time. Coincident with this report, the Chieftain must submit to public inspection a proposed pay-roster for all individuals employed in public office for the following two to three months. This proposal must meet majority public approval to be validated.

4.2) The Chieftain may decide how to expend the funds of the city available, insofar as the use of that money is for the benefit of the city. Contracts or trades must not be awarded to people on the basis of their friendship to the Chieftain, but on whether or not the deal is the best possible for the city. This proviso does not however pertain to the general improving of relationships with foreign powers, as the Chieftan has an overlap between treasury expenditure and foreign policy. The distinction here is between making generous offers to other groups with a long term goal of establishing beneficial trade relations, and that of using funds of Brodgar purely for the purpose of helping a personal friend.

4.3) Any continuing contract or trade that amounts to one third or more of currently held funds must be publicly announced.

4.4) The Chieftain bears responsibility for the appointment of individuals, if any are required, to manage the above duties.
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Re: The Laws of Brodgar

Postby Pacho » Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:51 pm

I say Aye to both laws.
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Re: The Laws of Brodgar

Postby theTrav » Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:11 pm

Aye to both laws, and as mentioned in PM, I formally request a draft of the Mining Taxation law be enacted and ratified simultaneously.

For the mines I believe the city provides tea and food and security, so it's fair to ask a ratio of 1:3 city:miner (25% tax) on all smelted output (bars) leaving the mine.
Remember folks, we're using those bars for the good of the city, which YOU have a say in, so it's a good thing to happen.
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Re: The Laws of Brodgar

Postby kriogenik » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:41 am

AYE to both laws...
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Re: The Laws of Brodgar

Postby bladerdave » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:56 am

Aye to the Second Law aswell.
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Re: The Laws of Brodgar

Postby XkrikX » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:07 am

methinks aye again
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