QL 82 clay is serious business

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Re: QL 82 clay is serious business

Postby Cain » Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:06 pm

Partilk wrote:
"The first man who, having fenced in a piece of land, said "This is mine," and found people naive enough to believe him, that man was the true founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows: Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody.


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It's not even a matter of "who's land it is" but rather who has control over the land. I'd happily have a gold mine with ten able warriors guarding it on your land than a broken down plow and dying horse, and ten warriors standing around playing dice, on my land.
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Re: QL 82 clay is serious business

Postby Peter » Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:35 pm

If you had ten soldiers on ANYONE's land, you'd own it in some sense or another.
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Re: QL 82 clay is serious business

Postby memestream » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:35 am

Peter wrote:If you had ten soldiers on ANYONE's land, you'd own it in some sense or another.

The United States must own almost everywhere in that case. :D
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Re: QL 82 clay is serious business

Postby Neyvn » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:27 am

The United States must own almost everywhere in that case. :D

They at least think they do...

His servant picked up the spade and dug a grave long enough for Pahom to lie in, and buried him in it. Six feet from his head to his heels was all he needed." -Leo Tolstoy, "How Much Land Does a Man Need?".

I lol'd at the truth behind this ^^...

Land is not the issue, its the uses it gives. To claim an area for something such as clay. It will fail due to the ease of accessibility. But please inform me, are you able to know who left a trespassing scent even though you can't track it. Like does it have a name, never seen one before so I don't know...

Seriously. Anyone can go collect it and the only way of really protecting it and claiming it for go is armed guards. Anyone willing to stand guard night and day over a patch of HQ Clay? I mean come on. Yes YAY its the highest known and found. Yay for you who now 'owns' it. But how much effort are you going to take to make sure it remains yours? Are you gonna stand guard???

By the way, are you gonna be 'selling' it to those that can't get there or are you gonna hog it and hope to catch those that can???
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Re: QL 82 clay is serious business

Postby Cain » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:55 am

Neyvn wrote:
The United States must own almost everywhere in that case. :D

They at least think they do...

His servant picked up the spade and dug a grave long enough for Pahom to lie in, and buried him in it. Six feet from his head to his heels was all he needed." -Leo Tolstoy, "How Much Land Does a Man Need?".

I lol'd at the truth behind this ^^...

Land is not the issue, its the uses it gives. To claim an area for something such as clay. It will fail due to the ease of accessibility. But please inform me, are you able to know who left a trespassing scent even though you can't track it. Like does it have a name, never seen one before so I don't know...

Seriously. Anyone can go collect it and the only way of really protecting it and claiming it for go is armed guards. Anyone willing to stand guard night and day over a patch of HQ Clay? I mean come on. Yes YAY its the highest known and found. Yay for you who now 'owns' it. But how much effort are you going to take to make sure it remains yours? Are you gonna stand guard???

By the way, are you gonna be 'selling' it to those that can't get there or are you gonna hog it and hope to catch those that can???


You can never see the name of the character that left a scent. You can always track a scent. The difference in scents is whether or not you can summon the character and kill it (if the person is offline) if/when you get to the perpetrators hearth fire. In the case of digging clay, it leaves a trespassing scent, which is not summonable.
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Re: QL 82 clay is serious business

Postby Neyvn » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:59 am

Delamore, are you still unable to 'protect' this claim over the clay, if not I think I may have an idea, but hey if you are already cool, if not let us know kay...
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Re: QL 82 clay is serious business

Postby Chakravanti » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:39 pm

It's not THAT goddamn difficult to wall off clay.

Just build a pallisade around it on the land side and boats on the other.

Someone will always need to leave a summonable scent to get the stuff.
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Re: QL 82 clay is serious business

Postby Delamore » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:41 pm

Chakravanti wrote:It's not THAT goddamn difficult to wall off clay.

Just build a pallisade around it on the land side and boats on the other.

Someone will always need to leave a summonable scent to get the stuff.

Trespassing to lift a boat
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Re: QL 82 clay is serious business

Postby Potjeh » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:44 pm

Fill the whole claim with boats so there's no room on claim to put one down.
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Re: QL 82 clay is serious business

Postby Peter » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:48 pm

BOATS! BOATS EVERYWHERE!

Well, someone could just put the boats out in the deep water, which is probably claimed.

Look, what if someone just goes to the edge of the claim and digs up Q79 clay? Does the three point difference (or however many it is) really have a significant effect on the final quality of the product?
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