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Re: History repeats itself.

Postby Lothaudus » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:35 am

Khyron wrote:Granted not all of them are in this game (Lag!) but even so it would be extremely predjudicial to base hatred of over a hundred thousand people based on your grudge on a single member.

I understand your point but Delamore was the leader of the GOONS and certainly made it clear he was threatening Codexia. When the leader of a community threatens me, I pay attention. Likewise I would suspect that if I spoke to you as the leader of Codexia and threatened you, you would pay attention. You certainly wouldn't dismiss my threats as "just one guy" but would, I suspect, take them as a threat from that community. I doubt you'd dismiss it as a joke.

If I followed that up with a thread taking credit for an attack on your community (which incidentally was posted before the attack and then updated during it), I suspect you would take that very seriously too.

Khyron wrote:The goons that wanted to distance themselves from Delamore and his actions after the raid on Chernobyl moved to Prypiat and formed a new town, working on their own for themselves trying to build up without theft, assault, or blackmail.

If the GOONS that died truly did wish to distance themselves from the "Delamore GOONS" then it is a terrible thing that they died but I would like to point out some things.

  1. Delamore was widely recognised as the leader of the GOONS.
  2. The GOONS did run a protection racket in the past (all of a few weeks ago) which involved attacking and pillaging towns.
  3. Delamore threatened the same against Codexia.
  4. Codexia was attacked with people dying as a result. Innsmouth (people we had peacefully traded with and only that day exchanged signposts with) were also attacked.
  5. Delamore took credit for it on behalf of the GOONS. Jackard decried the Innsmouthians as cultists and that they deserved it despite an apparent deal they had with the GOONS.
I'm sorry if we didn't get your "GOON joke" (Which amounts to "Haha, your people died. Sucked in!") and Delamore just likes taking credit for everything but I say again, the conversation I had with Delamore made it very clear: I gave him forum access or "bad things would happen". A few days after turning him down, bad things happened and Delamore took credit for it.

I even lost a very valuable member of our community who's leaving incidentally, apparently required Delamore's approval (who again, happily failed to deny it was a "GOON raid" that took place). If I acted the way Delamore did, I think everyone in my town who was in any way associated with me would be a target.

If your leader is making jokes like this, appears to have knowledge of attacks before and during their occurance and is taking credit for them, I would suggest you find a new town to join because not everyone is going to enjoy your joke. Obviously it now becomes apparent that's what a number of people did and regretfully their association with the GOONS has lead to this. However, I do note that it was Delamore who started this thread, which would again indicate that he spoke for you...

If Delamore doesn't speak for you, the rest of us need to know.

sabinati wrote:that is, in fact, exactly the reason pripyat wasn't advertised. perhaps it wasn't the best course of action. at this point it doesn't matter.

i might as well let it be known now, that i'm taking over leadership of pripyat and the rest of the goons. delamore can do as he pleases on his own, but he is no longer the leader or the voice of the goons. if you have a problem with goons, speak to me about it.

Now that this is clear, I hope then that this is the end of these matters. Codexians hold no grudge against GOONS who wish only peaceful trade.
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Re: History repeats itself.

Postby Partilk » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:18 am

Also note that in their attempt to distance themselves from Chernobyl, those Goons call their new town... Prypiat. But you're not affiliated with Chernobyl.

It would seem that those Goons, even if they genuinely wanted to get away from Delamore, still can't or won't let go of the Goon mantle itself. And I'm sorry, you can't have it both ways. You can't distance yourself from the Chernobyl Goons with a new town called Prypiat, all the while continuing to call yourselves Goons. Or does the Church of Kyanka have such a strong hold on you?
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Re: History repeats itself.

Postby mikayel » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:21 am

In case anyone's confused why calling the new non-chernobyl related town Prypiat is strange...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prypiat
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Re: History repeats itself.

Postby Delamore » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:36 am

Partilk wrote:It would seem that those Goons, even if they genuinely wanted to get away from Delamore, still can't or won't let go of the Goon mantle itself. And I'm sorry, you can't have it both ways. You can't distance yourself from the Chernobyl Goons with a new town called Prypiat, all the while continuing to call yourselves Goons. Or does the Church of Kyanka have such a strong hold on you?

"Hurf durf a town based around people recruited from an outside forum shouldn't refer to themselves as such"
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Re: History repeats itself.

Postby niltrias » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:40 am

Delamore wrote:"Hurf durf a town based around people recruited from an outside forum shouldn't refer to themselves as such"


Missing the point much?
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Re: History repeats itself.

Postby nutsnmango » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:50 am

I don't believe piryapat was not associated with Delamore. Xanadu checked out Chernobyl multiple times before the recent raid. Chernobyl seemed to be abandoned. we were pretty sure the whole goon operation had moved to priyapat. We did investigate this with some thoroughness


That is why priyapat got raided instead of Chernobyl . We certainly considered raiding Chernobyl and investigated the possibility, but found it to be abandoned. thus Priyapat was targeted.
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Re: History repeats itself.

Postby Jevon » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:07 pm

nutsnmango wrote:I don't believe piryapat was not associated with Delamore. Xanadu checked out Chernobyl multiple times before the recent raid. Chernobyl seemed to be abandoned. we were pretty sure the whole goon operation had moved to priyapat. We did investigate this with some thoroughness


That is why priyapat got raided instead of Chernobyl . We certainly considered raiding Chernobyl and investigated the possibility, but found it to be abandoned. thus Priyapat was targeted.


So you targeted Pripyat because you couldn't find anyone at Chernobyl, and because you were "pretty sure"...
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Re: History repeats itself.

Postby WhiskeyWolf » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:17 pm

Look here dudes, although we call ourself Nazis and live in a town named Potsdam we are not those Nazis. We're cool, see.
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Re: History repeats itself.

Postby Delamore » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:42 pm

WhiskeyWolf wrote:Look here dudes, although we call ourself Germans and live in a town named Potsdam we are not those Germans. We're cool, see.
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Re: History repeats itself.

Postby Partilk » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:49 pm

WhiskeyWolf wrote:Look here dudes, although we call ourself Nazis and live in a town named Potsdam we are not those Nazis. We're cool, see.


This is priceless.
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