Guilds vs free trade?

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Re: Guilds vs free trade?

Postby theTrav » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:14 am

Fetdaniel wrote:Deliberate misunderstanding, for the lack of better motive, seems to be what you are going for? Would you please correct me if Im wrong?


Mostly I'm going for the lulz, also drank a lot of sugar... I mean coke... so I probably responded to a small part of your posts without proper respect for context, no offence is intended ^_^
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Re: Guilds vs free trade?

Postby Jackard » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:02 am

this here sure is a lot of words




ill admit to not using vending stands yet. partly laziness, partly because of no pouches and buying/bounty function for stands. bounties are a good way to set up player-driven quests

ps. i wonder if well see pickpocketing put in after pouches
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Re: Guilds vs free trade?

Postby niltrias » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:03 am

Well, since this thread seems safely derailed, I'll chip in my two cents.

I personally find both postmodernism, and especially the relativistic ideas therein, and objectivism to be equally silly. About the only thing sillier is the idea that one faces a dilemma in choosing between them. On a simple level, you can have more than one "good" without eliminating the concept of "bad".

Take, for example, a q150 axe, a q100 hammer, and a q10 wedge of generic gouda. The axe and the hammer are both good things, but they are not the same, and can't be used in the same way. The gouda, on the other hand, is a waste of the labor and materials that went into it. If the gouda is not precisely "bad", we can at least argue that it is unquestionably worse than the others. Only a ravening relativist would argue with that. (I await your flames, oh ravening relatavists :))

Or for a more real-world approach, one can agree that both Japanese and Mexican foods are great, while retaining a preference for one. So if I prefer Mexican food, and my friend says "Japanese food is the best in the world!", I can safely say that I respect his opinion without being accused of intellectual laziness. It is possible to recognize the quality of something for another person without holding that same opinion yourself.
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Re: Guilds vs free trade?

Postby Cain » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:10 am

niltrias wrote:niltrias' two cents.

ahahaha. But then what would we use the forum for? :D
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Re: Guilds vs free trade?

Postby niltrias » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:12 am

Cain wrote:
niltrias wrote:niltrias' two cents.

ahahaha. But then what would we use the forum for? :D


Uhmmm...for derailing, flaming, and trolling, of course.
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Aren't those what forums are for?
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Re: Guilds vs free trade?

Postby Cain » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:00 am

niltrias wrote:
Cain wrote:
niltrias wrote:niltrias' two cents.

ahahaha. But then what would we use the forum for? :D


Uhmmm...for derailing, flaming, and trolling, of course.
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Aren't those what forums are for?


Yeah, and if we all agreed that different people have different views on the same situation, and that It wasn't necessary to foist your individual preferences on everyone else... then we'd have no forum ;)
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Re: Guilds vs free trade?

Postby niltrias » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:05 am

heh, true 'nuff.
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Re: Guilds vs free trade?

Postby theTrav » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:40 am

Cain wrote:Yeah, and if we all agreed that different people have different views on the same situation, and that It wasn't necessary to foist your individual preferences on everyone else... then we'd have no forum ;)


Not all statements are as hazy as food preference, particularly when dealing with critique of a game. Some suggestions really do deserve to be disagreed with.
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Re: Guilds vs free trade?

Postby niltrias » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:43 am

theTrav wrote:
Cain wrote:Yeah, and if we all agreed that different people have different views on the same situation, and that It wasn't necessary to foist your individual preferences on everyone else... then we'd have no forum ;)


Not all statements are as hazy as food preference, particularly when dealing with critique of a game. Some suggestions really do deserve to be disagreed with.


I completely agree. Please do not confuse my statement with rampant relativism. I did specifically state that some things are better than others. I was mainly posting in response to Jorb and Loftars posts, and slightly in response to the over-generalization that "I respect your opinion" is necessarily intellectual laziness.
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Re: Guilds vs free trade?

Postby kimya » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:46 am

now since when did you change your opinion from "not worth talking about" over "be quiet, do something" to

theTrav wrote:Some suggestions really do deserve to be disagreed with.


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