by memestream » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:16 pm
All goons who do not want to be associated with Delamore should make a public statement(in an original thread) that renounces their ties with him. Each individual goon who posts in that thread should list their characters, no further information is necessary. If any of these characters are seen trading/raiding/living with Delamore, they are stricken from the list.
Simple enough.
To be honest. I don't hate goons. I hate Delamore.(to a reasonable extent, I would possibly eat lunch with the guy) His self declared authority and representation of all goons has led me to support policies which eliminated all goons in the past. I've known for a long time that sabinati is from SA, as is Blaze, but I knew very well that neither of these players supported the bullshit that Delamore did. As far as I am concerned, 'goons' are a faction. If Xanadu were to use the same criteria for eliminating targets that Delamore's goons have in the past, anyone who had so much as been charged protection could be targeted. Xanadu set forth a more strict set of criteria than that even though, kill those in self-identified goon towns that Delamore claims to operate out of.
Haven and Hearth is a messy way to simulate a war. Things are being represented on a more or less tribal level, and about all that could be done in those days was kill or enslave the conquered. Enslavement isn't in the game, and it never will be, so expect things to get biblical when the enemy warband rolls in. There's simply no other way to diminish the conquered village's capacity for retaliation in a meaningful way. Hell, even in today's wars, civilian casualties are quite high. As long as there will be PvP in H&H, there will be 'innocent' hearthlings who die for it.
In this case, it would appear that something outside of the game has occurred which will make it less likely that it will be necessary for Xanadu to be as aggressive in the future. However, there was no way that Xanadu could have coerced or influenced this to come about in a direct manner. All Xanadu could do is say 'we will keep killing and raiding until you guys are either no longer playing the game or have made a serious change in direction.' Interestingly enough, that's a lot how real war works too. As Clausewitz said, "War is an act of violence to compel the enemy to do your will."
So at this point, I think it's up to the goons to depose the old regime and make it clear where they stand with the rest of the Hearthlands.