Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby zacty » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:16 pm

popfor wrote:dafuq


pop, it comes down to this. learn to shut the fuck up ive lived and grown homesteads with you and you somehow manage to get the most laid-back fucked up person i know to greatly dislike you. the whole problem your missing, that has been stated multiple times (that ive witnissed firsthand) is that you dont know when to shut. the. fuck. up. you dont seem to understand something about this forum, you start some shit, and then someone shits on you, so you start even more shit and blame it on the person who responded to you. just... THINK man. every time yous seem to post is solely to troll (i would hope, unless you think its going to accomplish something else) but just STOP. pop, your my friend, and you can always retreat to my hermitage when you need to. but just stop just dont post unless you think its helpful or otherwise needed, and this shit wont happen :(
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby cobaltjones » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:24 pm

TeckXKnight wrote:I apologize if the quality of forum posts overall appears to retain a low value but I really was not grasping at straws there. Popfor has demonstrated time and time again in the past that he has no problem poking and agitating mods and other players for the fun of it.

Either you're blind or just dumb here, but you really need to grow some thicker skin or actually start enforcing rules based on the rules and not your predetermined notions of the username on the other side.

Over half of the people on this forum have no problem poking and agitating other players for the fun of it. That's part of being a forum. What popfor has done is no more severe than any number of other people around here do on a daily basis. Seems strange that popfor ALWAYS gets banned while everyone else NEVER get banned. It's almost as if you're predetermining your feelings of his posting by his username and not actually comparing it to the quality of posting of the forum as a whole.
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby popfor » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:14 pm

I completely agree with jones. Whatever, i'm done with this convo unless someone desires to bring something back up. I would hope not.
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby sabinati » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:53 pm

Potjeh wrote:IMO ban evasion should be automatic permaban, with no possibility of parole.


for the account they're using to evade on, yeah, but not the main account. but that's what we already do. or i do anyway.
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby TeckXKnight » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:16 pm

cobaltjones wrote:Either you're blind or just dumb here, but you really need to grow some thicker skin or actually start enforcing rules based on the rules and not your predetermined notions of the username on the other side.

Over half of the people on this forum have no problem poking and agitating other players for the fun of it. That's part of being a forum. What popfor has done is no more severe than any number of other people around here do on a daily basis. Seems strange that popfor ALWAYS gets banned while everyone else NEVER get banned. It's almost as if you're predetermining your feelings of his posting by his username and not actually comparing it to the quality of posting of the forum as a whole.

I understand that you wish to make a point against me here but I've given popfor all of 1 ban for a 7 day duration. There is no 'always.' I have actually banned him more than that but that was for ban evasion on alt accounts. This is an offense that he was warned about and that I often go well out of my way to warn people against. It does, however, net you an instant ban on that account all the same.

Just like everyone else, popfor gets away with most of his antics; and just like everyone else, he can push it too far and net himself a ban.
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby sabinati » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:13 pm

cobaltjones wrote:
TeckXKnight wrote:I apologize if the quality of forum posts overall appears to retain a low value but I really was not grasping at straws there. Popfor has demonstrated time and time again in the past that he has no problem poking and agitating mods and other players for the fun of it.

Either you're blind or just dumb here, but you really need to grow some thicker skin or actually start enforcing rules based on the rules and not your predetermined notions of the username on the other side.

Over half of the people on this forum have no problem poking and agitating other players for the fun of it. That's part of being a forum. What popfor has done is no more severe than any number of other people around here do on a daily basis. Seems strange that popfor ALWAYS gets banned while everyone else NEVER get banned. It's almost as if you're predetermining your feelings of his posting by his username and not actually comparing it to the quality of posting of the forum as a whole.


as has been repeatedly stated, report shitty posts/posters and they'll be dealt with at the moderator's discretion. moderation is done on a case by case basis, and posters are not judged vs other posters but against the rules and against their own past behavior. each moderator has varying levels of tolerance for violations of the rules as they interpret them. think of the moderation team more as judges and less as police. you, the community, are to be self-policing (as it should be in Jorb's Libertarian Paradise Forum), which is why you have a report button. i don't go out actively seeking violations of the rules. i don't even read at least 90% of the forum, so it's ridiculous to make arguments like "but other posters are worse!" because, again, we are not omniscient, and those posters have probably already been warned/banned multiple times, or if not, then it's because people didn't USE THE REPORT BUTTON. if you are active on the forum and you don't use the report button to report problem posts, but you come here to complain about lack of moderation, then you realistically have nobody to blame but yourself.
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Jackard » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:27 pm

seems like everything has been addressed

Potjeh wrote:IMO ban evasion should be automatic permaban, with no possibility of parole.
sabinati wrote:you, the community, are to be self-policing (as it should be in Jorb's Libertarian Paradise Forum), which is why you have a report button. i don't go out actively seeking violations of the rules. i don't even read at least 90% of the forum, so it's ridiculous to make arguments like "but other posters are worse!" because, again, we are not omniscient, and those posters have probably already been warned/banned multiple times, or if not, then it's because people didn't USE THE REPORT BUTTON. if you are active on the forum and you don't use the report button to report problem posts, but you come here to complain about lack of moderation, then you realistically have nobody to blame but yourself.
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby popfor » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:07 pm

inb4 talking back to mods = perma ban
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby chocolaterain » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:18 pm

just stfu already man
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby cobaltjones » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:18 pm

sabinati wrote:as has been repeatedly stated, report shitty posts/posters and they'll be dealt with at the moderator's discretion. moderation is done on a case by case basis, and posters are not judged vs other posters but against the rules and against their own past behavior. each moderator has varying levels of tolerance for violations of the rules as they interpret them. think of the moderation team more as judges and less as police. you, the community, are to be self-policing (as it should be in Jorb's Libertarian Paradise Forum), which is why you have a report button. i don't go out actively seeking violations of the rules. i don't even read at least 90% of the forum, so it's ridiculous to make arguments like "but other posters are worse!" because, again, we are not omniscient, and those posters have probably already been warned/banned multiple times, or if not, then it's because people didn't USE THE REPORT BUTTON. if you are active on the forum and you don't use the report button to report problem posts, but you come here to complain about lack of moderation, then you realistically have nobody to blame but yourself.


That's all well and good, but that still doesn't explain why popfor is the only one getting banned around here. I understand you can't actively police 100% of the forums, but are the moderators only reading popfor's posts and nothing else? How could you honestly miss other terrible posts but still single out a relatively mundane popfor post? I highly doubt his posts are the only posts that get reported.

I will, however, be dedicating some time to actively reporting every single post I can find that is similar to his post in lack of content and quality. I hope you enjoy sorting through them all and do your due diligence to hand out warnings and bans to those responsible.

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EDIT: You can't report posts in the Announcements forum. Seems like a problem if you actually expect people to report offending posts.
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