Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby popfor » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:15 pm

painhertz wrote:I love how I stopped playing this game over a month ago and maybe post once every week or so and these kids keep dragging my name up.....

Hurr durr dick in my mouth. Remember that one pain? :)
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby cobaltjones » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:00 pm

Not even counting the fact that he's had OVER 200 posts in the week since posting that, in the week prior to posting that he had 8 posts and in the last month before that post he's had 42.

"Maybe once every week or so" :lol:
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby ApocalypsePlease » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:00 pm

About potential updates to rules: I've got a suggestion to revise the current rules.

Two rules in place that are semi-relevant:
Under the section "Inappropriate content":
"Don't be a blatantly stupid/unfunny troll, derail otherwise interesting threads with your trolling, or troll/stir up drama on the forums with an alt."
Under the section "Spam":
"Please refrain from offtopic chatting in important threads like the server status thread."

Could there be a stronger rule against derailing in general than just derailing by trolling? As someone who has been actively reporting, I wish there was a better reason for reporting posts than just "offtopic", it really irritates me. Having a rule in place against all derails and any continuous off topic discussion could force the forums to shape up a little bit and hopefully even improve the overall quality of the forums.

Would be interested in your input, thanks.
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby sabinati » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:06 pm

in general i'm in favor of such a thing. does anyone have anything to say against it?
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby TeckXKnight » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:30 am

Sounds good to me.
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Neon14 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:29 am

Yeh, I agree if my word means anything.
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby popfor » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:39 am

Neon14 wrote:Yeh, I agree if my word means anything.

It doesn't, but I would also agree. :)
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Potjeh » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:02 pm

I guess it's up to me to be the Devil's advocate then. Sometimes everything is said on the original topic that needs to be said, but the conversation naturally shifts to another topic, just like conversations do IRL. I don't see anything wrong with this kind of derail, so I'd rather not have a blanket rule against derailing.
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby burgingham » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:27 pm

I personally find it hard to judge between derails that are annoying and such that are ok (I agree with Potjeh that such exist). It would mean a lot more work for the barely active mods if such a rule were to be carried out properly.

I only recently had a discussion via pm with Neon, who had been reporting quite a lot of posts. For me it was nitpicking, for him those little things like a simple "lol" post with no other content were disturbing. I get where he is coming from, but you cannot really expect us to moderate every post that has no perfect content and also who are we to judge that in the first place? People are going apeshit enough about what the mods are doing as is.
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Re: Forum Management: A Plea for Moderation

Postby TeckXKnight » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:17 pm

burgingham wrote:I personally find it hard to judge between derails that are annoying and such that are ok (I agree with Potjeh that such exist). It would mean a lot more work for the barely active mods if such a rule were to be carried out properly.

I only recently had a discussion via pm with Neon, who had been reporting quite a lot of posts. For me it was nitpicking, for him those little things like a simple "lol" post with no other content were disturbing. I get where he is coming from, but you cannot really expect us to moderate every post that has no perfect content and also who are we to judge that in the first place? People are going apeshit enough about what the mods are doing as is.

I'd be fine making the extra judgments just because it'd mostly involve a whole lot of nothing. For the most part posters are pretty good about staying on topic and it's generally the same handful of people who are incapable of this. In the event that it does come up a lot, I have no problem eating my words and just handling the job as it appears.

With anything, every incidence is going to be a judgment call on the mod that takes a look at it. If they feel like they made a bad call afterwards then they can rescind the punishment or lock and nothing changes. Nothing to be afraid of. Also, even small comments such as 'lol' can be off topic to varying degrees. While they're generally looked down upon they're not exactly something that warrants a ban unless other circumstances contribute to the scenario.
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