Increase the capacity of ovens

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Increase the capacity of ovens

Postby Ethan » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:48 am

Its ridiculous that you need 20-40 ovens to actually cook any meaningful amount of food, and is a prime candidate for macroing.

Can we have ovens that have around 4x the capacity, so it at least alleviates the tedium of fulling 20+ ovens with branches and food items?
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Re: Increase the capacity of ovens

Postby infectedking » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:53 am

I would rather they bring back the fuel bug, at least for ovens, would be much more convenient and less of a hassle.
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Re: Increase the capacity of ovens

Postby sabinati » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:57 am

160 pieces of baked goods is the minimal meaningful amount of food? really?
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Re: Increase the capacity of ovens

Postby Redlaw » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:05 am

4 ovens seems to work for me personally. They are also double the capacity then they wear in legacy.

I would rather they added a bigger oven then change the current one.
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Re: Increase the capacity of ovens

Postby Ethan » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:52 am

sabinati wrote:160 pieces of baked goods is the minimal meaningful amount of food? really?


Minimal meaningful amount of 1 type of baked good really. Luckily salads and steak and tubers are easier to make en mass.

You can eat close to 500 food items going from 0% hunger to the start of the 50% one, and that's only 1 char. When you have a few people in the village with 2-3 characters each, it takes a lot of food.
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Re: Increase the capacity of ovens

Postby jorb » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:41 pm

We did. In legacy they had four slots. #leniencyabounds
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Re: Increase the capacity of ovens

Postby Ethan » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:50 pm

jorb wrote:We did. In legacy they had four slots. #leniencyabounds


I just don't think the bottle neck to producing baked goods, should be the bakers tolerance to an awkward interface.

The fact you already increased it means you recognised it was an issue, and doubling it was a step in the right direction. However, do you think its sensible that a medium-large village needs 20+ ovens and even a hermit still needs 4?
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Re: Increase the capacity of ovens

Postby sabinati » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:47 pm

Ethan wrote:
sabinati wrote:160 pieces of baked goods is the minimal meaningful amount of food? really?


Minimal meaningful amount of 1 type of baked good really. Luckily salads and steak and tubers are easier to make en mass.

You can eat close to 500 food items going from 0% hunger to the start of the 50% one, and that's only 1 char. When you have a few people in the village with 2-3 characters each, it takes a lot of food.


if you start at 0% on the famished bar why would you eat all the way to the 50% bar?
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Re: Increase the capacity of ovens

Postby Redlaw » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:50 pm

sabinati wrote:
Ethan wrote:
sabinati wrote:160 pieces of baked goods is the minimal meaningful amount of food? really?


Minimal meaningful amount of 1 type of baked good really. Luckily salads and steak and tubers are easier to make en mass.

You can eat close to 500 food items going from 0% hunger to the start of the 50% one, and that's only 1 char. When you have a few people in the village with 2-3 characters each, it takes a lot of food.


if you start at 0% on the famished bar why would you eat all the way to the 50% bar?


Only if if I played 7 hours a week I might do that, but even then that is kind of dump...
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Re: Increase the capacity of ovens

Postby Ethan » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:13 am

sabinati wrote:
Ethan wrote:
sabinati wrote:160 pieces of baked goods is the minimal meaningful amount of food? really?


Minimal meaningful amount of 1 type of baked good really. Luckily salads and steak and tubers are easier to make en mass.

You can eat close to 500 food items going from 0% hunger to the start of the 50% one, and that's only 1 char. When you have a few people in the village with 2-3 characters each, it takes a lot of food.


if you start at 0% on the famished bar why would you eat all the way to the 50% bar?



I'll admit its probably not the most relevant point to make, but it seems like you are nit picking.
Sure there is an argument for eating less food and staying in the famished state, but you also gain attributes slower. Ravenous gives a 300% bonus, but takes more than 300% the time to drop 1% of hunger, when compared against the 100% bonus hungry state.

There is enough demand for baked goods, that it necessitates 20+ ovens. There is also enough baking ingredients to feed that many ovens. The bottle neck in the production is how tedious it is to fill and light those ovens.

If there is a consequence to increasing the capacity that makes it a bad idea, feel free to point it out.

Just out of curiosity how many ovens does your village have?
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