RavenHOlm under attack

[ewlol]

2 M can be achieved by macroing in 20-30 days for just one character (not taking into account of multiple client macroing).

Judging from the fact that this guy cares nothing for that character, I'd say it's a kamikaze alt with a feeder alt somewhere safe.

This guy obviously hacked his way to high skills. 5 hitting mansions, brickwalls? He has monumental skills.

[Russaria]

One thing to keep in mind is that any security can be breaked no matter how multilayered it is. The harder the security, the more effort it takes but it can be done (read Social Engineering). When this happens, all hell breaks loose. The best way to not get killed off is to be a total nomad hermit in which there is nothing for them to steal from you and you are most likely on a boat so it makes griefing you harder. Unfortunate 95% of the people are not lone nomads though and a percentage of those are griefers too...so yeah.

I also did a bit of excel calculation of LP. It only takes 2 M to get to 200 of one skill or 141 of two skills. 2 M can be achieved by macroing in 20-30 days for just one character (not taking into account of multiple client macroing).

Judging from the fact that this guy cares nothing for that character, I'd say it's a kamikaze alt with a feeder alt somewhere safe. Even if this guy is killed, you did not get to the source. The other case is that he simply doesn't care of his character dies as long as he accomplishes his destructive means. Once dead, another character rolls out (with partial ancestor stats). I wouldn't be surprised if he macroed to go full trad before he started to go on a killing spree. Finally this is talking on a a single or unorganized scale here.

On a related note, a friend of mine in the B1 sector got killed by a palisade breaking griefer and he was a hermit too. He never came back.

Yes, that's the whole point. They have no real intention, they don't "need" anything. They stole NOTHING from us. 5 cubbards full of tin bars, 2 cubbards full of copper bars, 1 cubbard of bronze. q40+ silkworms and eggs, a cubbard of silk thread, q25-40 tree seeds of all varieties, tobacco, peas and pepper seeds. ect,ect ALL left on the ground and the server crashes (yeah there's another wonderful thing) before we could get alts on to even pick some of the stuff up! They took nothing but stole clothes off the dead and even left them on the ground to rot (I assume so the new characters wouldn't even be able to get their clothes/equipt back.

They dont care about village or hermit, they dont care what you have or dont have to steal, it's not strategic, or out of need, or anything but plain old greifeing becuse the game attracts it, allows it, encourages it and gives very very little defense against it. Meaning it must be what they want...period. And noone really cares or does anything about it. It was the 2 guys killed from Prontera who had took the scents and went ad killed those last NE quandrant griefers...their reward was to be killed by known players for some political bull from a person that didnt even play anymore. Those tht can pvp don't really even stand up and g get people like this because (I guess) they know it doesn't matter either, and the greifer will just ancestor back and be ready for another run in a week or two.


It's all just tiring, sick and overall broken.

[Jackard]

But you'll never leave.

[juhubert]

yeah yeah and I read the New Brodgar one too. I'm not tramping 6 hours with a bacpack and 2 chests full of thread and carpal tunnel syndrome for the off chance Constantinople might be a trading spot CURRENTLY. Besides, griefers didn't come to steal, they destroy for NO real reason except personal lulz, you wont have a chance to do all that noise before one finds you now that they are all coming into heir stats. Especially since as Avu said, NOW is the time all the griefers are reaching the point where they can "realize their dream" and carnage for a few hours before summon death, then they'll be back next month when they macro up a new one. Rinse repeat. Its just plain unheathy man, and way too much crap for so little reward. You are basically saying that all the game should be is slaving for material for the mine hoarders, click walking for 8 hours at a stretch trying to trade (Mediclally unhealthy-see gamers wrist and carpal tunnel syndrome), instead of building a sandbox world. As for your justification quote. I suppose Auswitz was just a "oh well, such is the nature of things, no biggy, guess all the jews should've seen that coming and built a brick wall around their gettos because that's what ya get when ya have no rules"...LOL, omfg. SO which side of the mental makeup you fall on? Or is that even a question needing to be asked..LOL

well, actually, more and more people start trading thread saying: trade will take place in Constantinople. and it takes soe time to build a network of villages in the different supergrids, to fast travel through the world. but we are working on it.

and most important, i did NOT refer to Auschwitz, the infamous concentration camp, but to Carl Philipp Gottlieb von Clausewitz who was a Prussian soldier, military historian and military theorist. He is most notable for his military treatise Vom Kriege, translated into English as On War. you couldn´t possibly have gotten me more wrong.

[Russaria]

The game has great foundational ides, some near genius (like the quality stuff, the building and farming ect.) But i do likewise believe genius can also come along with near psychotic personal demons.

If the radiance of a thousand suns
Were to burst at once into the sky
That would be like the splendor of the Mighty one...
For I am become Jorb,
The shatterer of Worlds.

Well Jorb, to be honest. as sappy as the saying seems. Karma is a bitch, just because it is the internet doesn't mean the motive, intention and mental thoughts behind the ideals, morals or acts doesn't score with the "mighty one" where things that people do is cncerned. Real Life will probably touch you in suprising ways (considering many of the dissertations I've read by you over this long time). I do hope, you can summon up the same kind of flippancy when faced with it. Be that the lone gunman or back alley knife wielder...OR the lethal injection..whichever side of the coin your personality brings down upon you.

[Jackard]

Haha, wow. This thread is really paying off.

[Russaria]

But you'll never leave.

Well sir, you know, as you've mentioned before over the time, just because people check into the forum or stay around and watch doesn't mean they don't leave the game itself. But you are correct, of those in my village, no one WANTS to leave. I love the game, or more accurately, the foundational premise and mechanics of the sandbox part of the game, the graphics, the overall general gameplay as it relates to building a civilization. But even after so long, some time or another you do have to go elsewhere to actually make some use of your time right? And of course warn everyone you can...lol

[DatOneGuy]

Funniest thread I've read in a while, 10/10.

You're the reason griefers continue to grief, you make me want to just go grab a macro and start, I mean shit

"Bawwww, my city got invaded"
"Bawwwwwwwwwwwww, someone fix these mechanics, they're clearly broken, because I couldn't keep my village up Bawwwwwwwwww"

Get the fuck over it, start up, move on, learn from your mistakes.

There are a ton of things you can do to protect your village a lot better, even I can see that and I've only played for 2 weeks, so rebuild better, and move on or quit yer bitchin' :0

[Russaria]

Funniest thread I've read in a while, 10/10.

You're the reason griefers continue to grief, you make me want to just go grab a macro and start, I mean shit

"Bawwww, my city got invaded"
"Bawwwwwwwwwwwww, someone fix these mechanics, they're clearly broken, because I couldn't keep my village up Bawwwwwwwwww"

Get the fuck over it, start up, move on, learn from your mistakes.

There are a ton of things you can do to protect your village a lot better, even I can see that and I've only played for 2 weeks, so rebuild better, and move on or quit yer bitchin' :0

Kiss my ass you fucking motherfucker, 2 week noob ass bitch (this what ya wanted? or is this someone's alt because noone can have a real thread without this flaming shit?). Just because people state their feelings and discuss the nature of the problems does not mean they are "bawwwww"ing you 12 year old cocksucking little dweeb. There is a reason why no other games does it and when you stupid fucking little ass spends a year playing it then come back and talk, becauase by your own admission you don't know fucking shit. except that you are desperate need of someone in real like shanking your left eye ball so you stop using up valuable air. You don't like these threads trhen fucking go play the game and don't read discuss or involve yourself in these threads. Little loser ass bitch.

[Jackard]

Heh doesn't take much to set you off. But no, that is someone else entirely! Sorry to disappoint~