Minimap Tiles - Discontinued ground-type boundary-lines.

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Minimap Tiles - Discontinued ground-type boundary-lines.

Postby mvgulik » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:28 pm

On the borders of the mini-map images the ground-type boundary-lines are not drawn.

Giving rise to messy looking oddities in merged maps.
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Any chance this might be fixed ? (if there is an easy fix for it)
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Re: Minimap Tiles - Discontinued ground-type boundary-lines.

Postby mvgulik » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:57 am

(op rewrite)

In addition ... I really wonder what the mini-maps would look like whiteout those ground-type boundary-lines.

Any chance to see two merged mini-maps of the same area ? One with ground-type boundary-lines and one without them. (preferably an area with lots of ground-type boundary-lines of course)
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Re: Minimap Tiles - Discontinued ground-type boundary-lines.

Postby Enjoyment_2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:12 am

mvgulik wrote:(op rewrite)

In addition ... I really wonder what the mini-maps would look like whiteout those ground-type boundary-lines.

Any chance to see two merged mini-maps of the same area ? One with ground-type boundary-lines and one without them. (preferably an area with lots of ground-type boundary-lines of course)

new map
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old map
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Re: Minimap Tiles - Discontinued ground-type boundary-lines.

Postby mvgulik » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:34 am

Thanks.

But.
"New map" source ? ... The new beta client ??? (have not dared to use it yet. (also figure it uses the same resource/map files))
Custom client ?
Or something else ?
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Re: Minimap Tiles - Discontinued ground-type boundary-lines.

Postby Enjoyment_2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:37 am

modded custom client feature from not_a_cat
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Re: Minimap Tiles - Discontinued ground-type boundary-lines.

Postby mvgulik » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:39 am

Enjoyment_2 wrote:modded custom client feature from not_a_cat


Aha. :)
Got it.
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Re: Minimap Tiles - Discontinued ground-type boundary-lines.

Postby mvgulik » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:53 am

Back to that "missing border pixels" case.
It would of course be nice to know if that "missing border pixels" case has a change to be fixed at some point.
(ie: updating/fixing the part that generates the map-images for the map-server)
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Re: Minimap Tiles - Discontinued ground-type boundary-lines.

Postby loftar » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:33 pm

I agree that it is an annoying problem, but it's not exactly trivial to fix. The problem is that, in order to render a particular mapcut correctly, all the surrounding mapcuts also need to be loaded, which makes the rendered cuts dependent on which surrounding cuts the client even has in its possession, which would somehow need to be made part of the caching key or something. I'm sure it's possible to fix, and it should quite arguably be fixed, but I'm not exactly sure where that puts it on the effort/priority spectrum.
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Re: Minimap Tiles - Discontinued ground-type boundary-lines.

Postby mvgulik » Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:12 pm

I see.
Thanks for background info.

As priorities goes its of course one of the lesser ones.

PS: If one occasional revisits (ponders a bit about) a particular problem ... sometimes a usable/better solution, one has not thought of yet, might percent it self in due time.
I know. Easier said than done. :)
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Re: Minimap Tiles - Discontinued ground-type boundary-lines.

Postby mvgulik » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:49 am

(Bump/Repost ... (silently added some additional stuff to post over time)

For some reason I ended up with a (Ender saved) map-tile image ... without boundary borders.
So looked up its counterpart ... and enlarged both of them a bit.

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I kinda like it. :)

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Seems it not 'that' rare, as I found some another ones.
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Might as well do a simulate transparent border case (steps of 25%) ...
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(Imgur silently converted the Png to Jpeg, blurring the image a bit)

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It seems to me that the ~75% transparency case kinda takes care of 3 things:
1) Makes the discontinued ground border lines virtually disappear (in most cases).
2) Shows more detailed for village, and ground art, related areas.
3) But also still results in some border lining between similar colored textures. (although probably less effective on similar dark textures)
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