Game Development: World 16, with Steam

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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby Nocturnal-Rainbows » Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:57 am

Dungeons are decent... except for the part where they're unable to be solo'd. This may come as a surprise but there are a shit load of players who do not want to play with others. Period.
Now before anybody has a meltdown at me, I think group content is good for the game and group content absolutely without question should reward all those involved more than solo content...HOWEVER... why can't we implement some way that solo players can do some of these dungeons alone? There's a multitude of ways to implement it to be done, but basically have dungeons have a soloable version and a group version. Maybe have the group versions spawn less but they stick around longer, and their rewards are far superior to the soloable versions that pop up to make them worth the effort.

When so many of your players are hermits who want to do their own thing, you should ensure that they can take part in some of these fun things.
Not everything needs to be solo friendly. I'm fine with never bothering with meteorite shit. I just wanna be able to run some Bat/Beaver dungeons on my own, bro.
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby tyrtix » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:17 pm

Nocturnal-Rainbows wrote:snip, long


Atm, around half of the contents are barred from beign a soloable thing...with the latest mining updates of this world, it MAY became even more, since i suspect a lot of hermits just quit before getting to any hard metal.
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby vatas » Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:19 pm

Nocturnal-Rainbows wrote:Maybe have the group versions spawn less but they stick around longer, and their rewards are far superior to the soloable versions that pop up to make them worth the effort..

Ant/Bee/Beaver/Bat =group

Fox/Badger(arguably even Wolf) = solo

It is worth pointing out that the "dens" don't have the same restriction to Hearth out, so they're safer in general. There's non-zero chance that you're doing a dungeon and some other group comes in, blocks exit, and gets to permakill you. (This almost happened once, but by pure chance one of our group either need to go outside or arrived later, and saw the other group. They KO'd almost everyone of us, bot non inside the dungeon.)
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:27 pm

vatas wrote:
Nocturnal-Rainbows wrote:Maybe have the group versions spawn less but they stick around longer, and their rewards are far superior to the soloable versions that pop up to make them worth the effort..

Ant/Bee/Beaver/Bat =group

Fox/Badger(arguably even Wolf) = solo

It is worth pointing out that the "dens" don't have the same restriction to Hearth out, so they're safer in general. There's non-zero chance that you're doing a dungeon and some other group comes in, blocks exit, and gets to permakill you. (This almost happened once, but by pure chance one of our group either need to go outside or arrived later, and saw the other group. They KO'd almost everyone of us, bot non inside the dungeon.)


Vatas if this happens again and you're not outlaw just choose the option to log out in the ko screen. If you're not an outlaw your character will vanish as if you logged out normally, even in the dungeon. Then use a naked alt to scout and only log back in if the coast is clear. Then leave dungeon and hearth home.
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby widelec_szatana » Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:42 pm

Nocturnal-Rainbows wrote:Fox/Badger(arguably even Wolf) = solo


if roping aurochs and going in counts as solo then wolf dens are super ez
or was this fixed? probably not
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby dafels » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:38 am

Can't wait for W16+Steam release! Who else is excited? :D
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby animary » Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:16 pm

They shouldn't have announced the end of this world so soon, nearly everyone quit playing already. Of all the folks on my kin list, only two have been here the past five days.
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby Nocturnal-Rainbows » Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:15 pm

animary wrote:They shouldn't have announced the end of this world so soon, nearly everyone quit playing already. Of all the folks on my kin list, only two have been here the past five days.

It's retarded in general to have such a long wait after announcing the new world until it actually happens. It kills the hype people have.
We had an announcement 2 weeks before the dev stream (which everybody knew was going to lead into an announcement that the new world is about to begin)
Then we have an entire month of just waiting.

That's too fucking long. 2 weeks is more than ample time to make preparations and to get the word out there to people.
Still 3 weeks to go of just... nothing... before the new world begins. Talk about a hype killer.
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby Zampfeo » Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:24 pm

Nocturnal-Rainbows wrote:It's retarded in general to have such a long wait after announcing the new world until it actually happens. It kills the hype people have.
We had an announcement 2 weeks before the dev stream (which everybody knew was going to lead into an announcement that the new world is about to begin)
Then we have an entire month of just waiting.

That's too fucking long. 2 weeks is more than ample time to make preparations and to get the word out there to people.
Still 3 weeks to go of just... nothing... before the new world begins. Talk about a hype killer.


I only check the forums once or twice a month, so I appreciate the delay personally.
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby BigCountry » Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:51 pm

dafels wrote:Can't wait for W16+Steam release! Who else is excited? :D


we all are. only backfire is its still 3 weeks away. sucks haha
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