Time gate PVP skills

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Re: Time gate PVP skills

Postby The_Lich_King » Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:50 pm

By the way nobody is really thinking about this problem in the right way. The current issue is that nobody is able to compete with people who have rage/theft/vandalism because usually they know the Meta so well they can get the crime skills and also out compete you in combat before you get your palisades up in spite of the cost of crime skills. Increasing the cost of crime skills has little impact and likewise i feel that timegating pvp skills will have nearly no effect. These solutions just address pvp and don't address the real issue which is how quickly people can mass LP in the first week.

We shouldn't be looking to target pvp skills we should target nerf LP massing in the early game so the cost of crime is actually a significant choice early game and not something that can be done on a throwaway alt.
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Re: Time gate PVP skills

Postby Audiosmurf » Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:53 pm

While we're on the subject of LP gains and costs and etc, being able to get yeo in like 5 minutes is silly
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Re: Time gate PVP skills

Postby The_Lich_King » Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:54 pm

Audiosmurf wrote:While we're on the subject of LP gains and costs and etc, being able to get yeo in like 5 minutes is silly


+1
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Re: Time gate PVP skills

Postby Executioner » Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:52 am

Hasta wrote:
Executioner wrote:carrying 3 meat and 10 litres of water is simply too difficult for people

That's the definition of forcing your preferable gameplay on others. I'm not saying it's bad, just stating that it is and I hope you're okay with it.

did you miss the part where I said no chase required more than 1 water skin? What "playstyle" ? mfker learn to run in a straight line what is the issue??? run to a boat? use ur brain lmao dumb fuck if I got ganked id just be ashamed because its all designed to be impossible to get ganked unless you are absolutely clueless, next time u get ganked record it maybe u can learn from ur mistake and just run in a straight line next time

Kaios wrote:>attacks every player in nettle gear

dude i've never been ko'd in pvp you just have to get good

im in nettle gear, everyone is in nettle gear, are u even playing this game? or u just full time forum crying
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Re: Time gate PVP skills

Postby Avu » Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:35 am

TheServant wrote:
Avu wrote:I think people who only do PVP have stunted development and likely overcompensating for some shortcoming and can only derive joy from the misery of others.


bro what are you on? people that play other pvp games are like this aswell? it seems you play long ago but you dont seem to understand that is easy to run and drink


Most pvp games don't have characters that take months to build and can be killed in minutes.
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Re: Time gate PVP skills

Postby SonYoung » Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:46 am

Avu wrote:
TheServant wrote:
Avu wrote:I think people who only do PVP have stunted development and likely overcompensating for some shortcoming and can only derive joy from the misery of others.


bro what are you on? people that play other pvp games are like this aswell? it seems you play long ago but you dont seem to understand that is easy to run and drink


Most pvp games don't have characters that take months to build and can be killed in minutes.

most pvp game are not hardcore survival game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Time gate PVP skills

Postby SavageFox » Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:43 am

I got on to the game within the first day within the first 2 hours after it launched and I had all the resources to build my claim within the first 4 hours got all my terraforming done by the 8th hour I got a stick fence up by the 9th hour at 20 unarmed combat by hour 10 along with 20 survival and exploration from doing quests hour 12 the claim was done hour 16 my first hides were done drying and the server crashed got back on hour 21 lost my first character an hour 22 fully recovered back to my original state before my death hour 30 hour 36 got my first piece of leather hour 46 had everything to build my Palisade during that period of time I probably only slept for about 4 hours twice

you can say I'm a no lifer

I had enough leather left over to help one of my neighbors build their Palisade too so I technically helped build two bases Within 50 hours

after that whole entire time doing all that nobody came along and robbed me or gave me grief either

the best solution to deal with Griefers in this game is move there's no point in staying in a location where people are going to troll you cuz they're going to come back and do it again later and they'll probably kill you there's no point in living in a spot where you're going to get harassed by someone it's better to pick up your base and move tell you find a spot where people won't bother you that's my mindset about it

time gating PVP skills are not going to change anything it's just going to delay the inevitable harassment

sitting still in the location where people are harassing you and bitching about it is fucking stupid yes you lost all those hours of work and shit but don't fall for the sunk cost fallacy and stay in the same location to lose more shit later it's better to move
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