What the hell with beehives ? Let's figure it out !

[Potjeh]

I suspect there's some kind of data overflow which makes hives seem random. If that's the case it'll be virtually impossible to reliably predict quality.

[Cynry]

The second beehive built on my now called "waxfarm" goes the same way as the previous one. q10, then q11, then q12.
I've never witnessed this with any of my previous beehive, but it's a bit too much to be considered pure randomness.

[MaryShaw]

You have to harvest the wax on a regular basis, at least once a day. With the q of your crops getting higher so will the q from your wax, IF you harvest it at least once every day. It goes slowly but steady, by now I got wax q30.

[Cynry]

Thanks !

[bitza]

that makes sense, gotta clean out the wax buildup

[mvgulik]

what does dex have to do with farming? nothing.

Correct. But thats not what I was revering to.

AHAHAHA, so yesterday, after posting all this stuff, I thought "Oh shit, my farmer built the beehive, not my carpenter, this is probably why I'm only getting qCRAP wax, how stupid am I, bla bla bla".
So this morning, I start again, but this time my carpenter do the job. Harvest, replant, harvest, replant. Only q31 and above, this is so gonna work, good wax is miiiiiiiine.

and the carpentry skill on a carpenter is only relevant for the quality of boards produced, not the actual building process.

Your sure about that ... I figure if its unknown ... anything is possible.

[Vroomfondle]

Things you need to do to aquire good quality wax and honey:

Good crop quality. This is the material your honey/wax comes from.
Good hive quality. This caps honey/wax quality as far as I can tell.
Harvest your crops ASAP. I've wondered if the crops have a flowering stage that influences the hives, but it doesn't really matter. Growing crops general honey/wax. Keep them growing.
Keep hive influence filled with crops. The more crops available growing tiles of crops available to a hive the more productive that hive will be.
Do not overlap hive influence. Crops take a "hive hit" while growing. If a tile has already been hit, and another hive checks that tile, the second hive receives nothing. Overlapping reduces the quantity of honey/wax for each hive.
Harvest honey/wax often. Hives work like a bucket, and will average honey/wax generated with honey/wax already in the hive.

That is all there is to it. I am getting ~q60 honey and wax with q40-q80 crops.



Edit: A little more clarity on overlap.

[CWSPS]

Things you need to do to aquire good quality wax and honey:

Good crop quality. This is the material your honey/wax comes from.
Good hive quality. This caps honey/wax quality as far as I can tell.
Harvest your crops ASAP. I've wondered if the crops have a flowering stage that influences the hives, but it doesn't really matter. Growing crops general honey/wax. Keep them growing.
Keep hive influence filled with crops. The more crops available growing tiles of crops available to a hive the more productive that hive will be.
Do not overlap hive influence. Crops take a "hive hit" while growing. If a tile has already been hit, and another hive checks that tile, the second hive receives nothing.
Harvest honey/wax often. Hives work like a bucket, and will average honey/wax generated with honey/wax already in the hive.

That is all there is to it. I am getting ~q60 honey and wax with q40-q80 crops.

I find some of these facts not true, i have overlapped hives that completely overlap and produce high q wax but in larger numbers, however less often.

[Cynry]

^ This does not contradict what he said. 2 beehives will "hit" twice as often (so larger numbers of wax overall), but will sometimes hit the same crop, so one beehive won't produce wax/honey (so, less often). That's what I understand from it.

Vroomfondle, thank you, that's pretty much what I figured out.
The only thing still obscure to me is why a freshly built hive gave me a q28 wax, when the ones I built in my "waxfarm" started by giving me a q10 wax although everything about them (crops, materials) was better.


Also, does wax average with the honey already in the hive ? Or only wax with wax, and honey with honey ?

[CWSPS]

^ This does not contradict what he said. 2 beehives will "hit" twice as often (so larger numbers of wax overall), but will sometimes hit the same crop, so one beehive won't produce wax/honey (so, less often). That's what I understand from it.

Vroomfondle, thank you, that's pretty much what I figured out.
The only thing still obscure to me is why a freshly built hive gave me a q28 wax, when the ones I built in my "waxfarm" started by giving me a q10 wax although everything about them (crops, materials) was better.


Also, does wax average with the honey already in the hive ? Or only wax with wax, and honey with honey ?

I think you need to have honey still in it, but i could be wrong