Banners and why they suck.

[Eemerald]

we've pretty much done it on a one woman/man basis

25 items dont take that long to build tbh...

patience hearthlings!

[DatOneGuy]

we've pretty much done it on a one woman/man basis

25 items dont take that long to build tbh...

patience hearthlings!

They do when you just did a fucking flax field, are putting down 50 banners, and need to wait for each one to finish. There is patience for things that make sense (houses, walls), and then there is shit that is just silly, banners. I could build 5-10 wall segments in the time I build a damn banner.

[cobaltjones]

All I'm saying is that there's obviously a reason for banners taking so long to build. Their build time was nerfed specifically as a balancing mechanism to deter rapid village expansion.

Whether or not that balancing mechanism is effective or needed is certainly up for discussion, but the fact remains that they take that long to build because loftar didn't want you to be able to build them faster.

[DatOneGuy]

All I'm saying is that there's obviously a reason for banners taking so long to build. Their build time was nerfed specifically as a balancing mechanism to deter rapid village expansion.

Whether or not that balancing mechanism is effective or needed is certainly up for discussion, but the fact remains that they take that long to build because loftar didn't want you to be able to build them faster.

No, no it wasn't nerfed, it just needs to be rebalanced

Village setup in general atm needs a huge overhaul, but while we can still only use banners/statues to move auth, banners need to be faster, the rate at which you can make them is what stops rapid village expansion, NOT how fast you build banners. They should be at least twice as fast.

And statues, well hahaah, what a joke. The only time I've built those rapidly was with 6 people.

[sabinati]

All I'm saying is that there's obviously a reason for banners taking so long to build. Their build time was nerfed specifically as a balancing mechanism to deter rapid village expansion.

Whether or not that balancing mechanism is effective or needed is certainly up for discussion, but the fact remains that they take that long to build because loftar didn't want you to be able to build them faster.

material cost, not build time, should be the balancing factor.

[rye130]

The hitbox size should not be increased otherwise making walls out of them would be ridiculously easy.

[Sarchi]

You don't need banners to make relatively cheap walls out of authority objects.

[DatOneGuy]

The hitbox size should not be increased otherwise making walls out of them would be ridiculously easy.

You can already do this!

[rye130]

Yeah, but its more difficult now than if you make them bigger.

[DatOneGuy]

Yeah, but its more difficult now than if you make them bigger.

If making a 'bannerwall' you only need it to be every 2 tiles, if making an actual wall out of banners, yeah it'll make a difference. I don't think it'll matter too much though, maybe not make it a whole tile, but something around statue's size.