game basically unplayable without quality on default client

[iamahh]

i'm afraid this update could take longer to hit some mod clients, there was some protocol changes mentioned by Loftar

[Granger]

i'm afraid this update could take longer to hit some mod clients, there was some protocol changes mentioned by Loftar

Which have been announced by loftar in advance, with plenty of time to pull them.
But the ones that supply us the custom clients create them on their own, free spare time - so we should be thankful and buy them a beer now and then.

Back to topic, compared to QoL functions in Amber the official client is complete unfun to use and should pull these in (quality display, mass item transfer with sorting, function key toolbar with the ability to accept menu buttons, movement speed shortcuts, camera toggle - to name the first that come to my mind).

[jordancoles]

Here's a pro tip.

Did you know that you can see quality by hovering the mouse over the item? WOAH!!11!

There is a delay before the item info appears and that in itself is annoying as fuck

[Granger]

There is a delay before the item info appears and that in itself is annoying as fuck

This. Completely pointless mechanic.

[Amanda44]

Agreed, I just spent 10 minutes trying to farm and then V brings in an LC of wax from somewhere which I'm supposed to sort and put away in my neat q organised cupboards ... right, I logged out.

Really though, in a game where everything is dependant on quality it is amazing that it isn't displayed without having to hover over every item! It is the single biggest fault with the default client.

[ctopolon3]

moving with item on cursor
transfer\drop all same items
area of effect (bonfire, minesupport, beehive, etc)
hotkeys (hand slots, speed switch)
romovs livestock manager
map zoom
& alot stuff from sideDEVs

[shubla]

I think that the current situation with default client is pretty bad. Somebody commented on custom client thread that his steels are ruined because the client was not updated quick enough so he could not refuel the crucibles. He literally did not know that there also is a default client.

[sMartins]

moving with item on cursor = Ctrl + left click
transfer\drop all same items shift+ctrl+alt
area of effect (bonfire, minesupport, beehive, etc) terrible to look at, you can just pick a ghost image to check its radius
hotkeys (hand slots, speed switch) ctrl+R
romovs livestock manager
map zoom
& alot stuff from sideDEVs

There a bit of help for you from a default client user, I certainly agree that default should deserve more love, but I have also to say that it is already improved a lot than what it was in the past.
Customs are great for shortcuts, perfomances and whatever but the downsides of them (game design breaking, cheats, bad automations etc..) are too big to make them valid for this game right now ... they probably were the only way to go in the past, but not anymore ... customs hurt this game, start to play default and learn it, if you want this game to tribe in the future.

Really though, in a game where everything is dependant on quality it is amazing that it isn't displayed without having to hover over every item! It is the single biggest fault with the default client.

Yeah I can see your point, but thx god items you craft/farm/etc.. in this game are not really random quality, so you get used to it pretty fast ... btw you can ask on C&I for a quality toggle, lets start to improve the default client step by step, cause I can see how huge the work will be for Loftar to make evrything at once.

[joojoo1975]

I think he did, but something bout his workplace and java disallowed hom from using default client

[iamahh]

Custom don't hurt this game, they allow more people to run int on slow machines



game went from 150 low to 60 population (last wipe was around this population numbers)

no matter how much you preach your faith on default client, it's too intensive for some, and too unpractical for others