botting permaban idea

[overtyped]

Could make it where even people who don't bot, but have village mates who do, have a chance of being banned with them if they use their botted curios, being complicit and all that, makes people self govern lol.

I'm sure you are already beginning to understand that it would require an unreasonable amount of workhours just to get this system to be ~25% effective, and still won't solve the problem, all the while bringing a lot more faults and problems with the "solution".

It can be 10% effective, even if most people who bot get away with it, it will stop the majority of people doing it in the first place, if the punishment is severe, and the ones unlucky enough to get caught, lose months of work, if botted curios can get ur main banned.

[loftar]

Loftar just make it a rule not to bot, not that hard to write it down.

Yes, that would be quite easy. The real problem gets to be when you have to define the border-cases of what constitutes bannable botting (you know, technically the custom-client mods for bulk-clicking over categories of items between containers is also "botting" in the strictest sense of the term), and people start asking for credible evidence that they were botting and feel it is unfair because they were banned but their neighbor wasn't because we weren't watching at the moment, &c&c&c

[overtyped]

Loftar just make it a rule not to bot, not that hard to write it down.

Yes, that would be quite easy. The real problem gets to be when you have to define the border-cases of what constitutes bannable botting (you know, technically the custom-client mods for bulk-clicking over categories of items between containers is also "botting" in the strictest sense of the term), and people start asking for credible evidence that they were botting and feel it is unfair because they were banned but their neighbor wasn't because we weren't watching at the moment, &c&c&c

like i said, even if most people bot and get away with it, that doesn't matter, just ignore and ban the ones you do catch is enough of a deterrant.
I realized how effective this was when i got permabanned from kronos, i botted for literally a month straight, but getting caught once was all it took to completely destroy me. It didn't matter if i knew people who botted, it still stopped me from doing it ever again, though if i knew i would of been permabanned i wouldnt of ever thought of doing it.

[loftar]

like i said, even if most people bot and get away with it, that doesn't matter, just ignore and ban the ones you do catch is enough of a deterrant.

It is funny that you of all people say this after all your tantrum over the so-called justice we apparently failed to deliver to you. I cant wait until we haven't banned your neighbor whom you clearly caught botting and even PM'd us the most convincing of screenshots of it. :)

[overtyped]

like i said, even if most people bot and get away with it, that doesn't matter, just ignore and ban the ones you do catch is enough of a deterrant.

It is funny that you of all people say this after all your tantrum over the so-called justice we apparently failed to deliver to you. I cant wait until we haven't banned your neighbor whom you clearly caught botting and even PM'd us the most convincing of screenshots of it.

So what? i'm already over it, you fucked up, but you lost a sub, so everyone is a loser.

[Hasta]

even if most people bot and get away with it, that doesn't matter, just ignore and ban the ones you do catch is enough of a deterrant.

If most people bot and get away with that, they will continue to do so, they won't be "deterred" by some poor toon getting permabanned by IP just because he didn't bother to use a proxy for his botting account or trade botted curios via barterstand. These botting people will laugh at the banned guy, they will feel superior and make that their pride to avoid any means of detection.

Seriously, have you even played "heavily moderated" games before?

[ven]

Loftar just make it a rule not to bot, not that hard to write it down.

Yes, that would be quite easy. The real problem gets to be when you have to define the border-cases of what constitutes bannable botting (you know, technically the custom-client mods for bulk-clicking over categories of items between containers is also "botting" in the strictest sense of the term), and people start asking for credible evidence that they were botting and feel it is unfair because they were banned but their neighbor wasn't because we weren't watching at the moment, &c&c&c

If you manage to ban 20 botters for every border case you leave unsolved, that's a win.

I don't think you could control bots without controlling alts though.

[Grog]

@overtyped
What's your definition of "botting", and what's the ones of the games you mentioned?

[overtyped]

@overtyped
What's your definition of "botting", and what's the ones of the games you mentioned?

any automated task not in the main client, that makes the game easier.

[wonder-ass]

pls dont ban my poor alt
he has already bin through a lot of pain and suffering