Natural cave galleries

[MadNomad]

This event more than annoying when you want to dig a perfect looking space for some aesthetic purposes.

You could cause cave ins and mine in this area again but its more work ofc

[strpk0]

I don't think mining should be entirely predictable.

But rocks vanishing into thin air?
I get what you mean, but as a player I think it's kind of annoying to be punished for doing nothing wrong.

[shubla]

I don't think mining should be entirely predictable.

Why not

[jorb]

I don't think mining should be entirely predictable.

But rocks vanishing into thin air?
I get what you mean, but as a player I think it's kind of annoying to be punished for doing nothing wrong.

I mean, I sort of get it, but the point would be that you have found a natural crevice in the rock. The stone was never there to begin with.

[ven]

The stone was never there to begin with.

That's deep.

[strpk0]

Atleast (maybe in the future) make it so something spawns inside the crevice and jumps you. totally not dwarf fortress
Just having your ore nuked alone feels like kind of a killjoy, but I realize how much I'm repeating myself at this point. I'll stop now.

[ven]

I think they're a metaphor for the emptiness of greed and the ultimate meaninglessness of reality. If cave galleries make us frustrated, it's because our desires were already hollow to begin with. You dig and sweat and receive nothing in return: cave galleries are life itself.

[Granger]

I don't think mining should be entirely predictable.

But rocks vanishing into thin air?
I get what you mean, but as a player I think it's kind of annoying to be punished for doing nothing wrong.

I mean, I sort of get it, but the point would be that you have found a natural crevice in the rock. The stone was never there to begin with.

It seems you didn't get the posts I made back then in viewtopic.php?f=47&t=45617#p592838 - because my criticism wasn't that we can discover these but that they extend (after they formed) through tiles we perceived a second before as solid and existing. With this I refer to connecting back to current non-void tiles, not the path in the void itself.

In case this will be (or was, havn't mined that excessively this world, the one I found went into solid void) changed so that they can't traverse (or connect with) non-void tiles the mechanic makes sense. In case it still uses the code it did when I made the thread mentioned it is still broken.

[jorb]

it is still broken.

Is not. Never was.

[Granger]

it is still broken.

Is not. Never was.

If you object to the word broken, and describe the mechanic as discovering something that was there the whole time and the stone wasn't there to begin with then please supply me with a fitting word that matches mining a tile that leads to the sudden appearance of a corridor (several tiles wide) now intersecting a tunnel (one tile wide) through which several hearthlings moved multiple times daily for several months - they would have noticed it the first time they went there.

As I see it the mechanic dosn't make sense since it breaks immersion, unless your idea of a default hearthling is one of a blind mole. Since you state to have a different view I would be happy if you could explain from where you look in which direction, for me to get it so that next time I think 'cool' instead of 'WTF?'.

Please don't get me wrong, I just want to understand your viewpoint which so far I don't.