Sheep cheese

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azrid
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Re: Sheep cheese

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Its only worth it if you accumulate several cupboards of filled sheep cheese trays.
Bigger herds make it easier.
Also 3 cupboards of Oskypki will give you about 200 agi if you start eating from base stat so how weak is it really?

I agree if you are making couple racks at a time you are better off using the milk in pies.
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Re: Sheep cheese

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Headchef wrote:
I suppose it takes '''too long'' on it's own but you could just start batches.

If you start 10 tubs a day completely devoted to this, (example) after a while you get lots of sheep cheese done daily.

If you do 1 cycle and nothing in between then not worth for sure.

And when conclusion is multiple batches of this I don't want to because this and this then it's just not viable to you and should be ignored like loads of other foods that aren't viable..

But seems everyone is different about it because it's cheese.. :roll:
To do this you'd need ludicrous amounts of sheep because sheep produce much less milk than cows do.
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Re: Sheep cheese

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Sevenless wrote:Sounds like the issue here is that gardening has caused clover = wool quality to be overpowered imo. Sheeps milk is plenty useful for butter, just add a dab of cow's milk to it to get the "Mixed butter" which doesn't give CHA. Agreed that the cheese takes too long.
You can use normal milk for that
1. Milk auroch once in your life
2. Fill it's milk to barrel
3. Fill the last with cow's milk
4. Use mixed milk anywhere.
5. Fill barrel before it'll get empty, have endlessly source of mixed milk without sheep.
Headchef wrote:
I suppose it takes '''too long'' on it's own but you could just start batches.

If you start 10 tubs a day completely devoted to this, (example) after a while you get lots of sheep cheese done daily.

If you do 1 cycle and nothing in between then not worth for sure.

And when conclusion is multiple batches of this I don't want to because this and this then it's just not viable to you and should be ignored like loads of other foods that aren't viable..

But seems everyone is different about it because it's cheese.. :roll:
So you need fukkken shitlot things for that: space, houses, cheese racks, quality trees for shitlot cheesetrays. Omg cant even imagine how mutch i will need work for this thing.
For all this time you i'd prefer:
1. Make pumpkin and wheat fields
2. Build 8 ovens to make 1 cupboard of buns in time
3. Feed charisma alt with cupcakes made from sheep milk.
4. Eat pumpkin pies that gives agi+str+con with bonfires

Before you get your 4 tier cheese i'll get 1000+ stats with less work.
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Re: Sheep cheese

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I was giving someone a use for sheep milk, not suggesting keeping them for milk is a good idea :P
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Re: Sheep cheese

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MrPunchers wrote:
Headchef wrote:
I suppose it takes '''too long'' on it's own but you could just start batches.

If you start 10 tubs a day completely devoted to this, (example) after a while you get lots of sheep cheese done daily.

If you do 1 cycle and nothing in between then not worth for sure.

And when conclusion is multiple batches of this I don't want to because this and this then it's just not viable to you and should be ignored like loads of other foods that aren't viable..

But seems everyone is different about it because it's cheese.. :roll:
To do this you'd need ludicrous amounts of sheep because sheep produce much less milk than cows do.
I understand what you mean.

But my point is actually that like 60% if not more of recipes of the game are unused.

Because they are not ideal regarding this or that.

Now if for sheep cheese the inconvenience is less milk per sheep + long waiting time then that's something to consider when thinking about producing this.

If you do not find it worth then do not do it.

But since it is cheese it should get special treatment and optimized because it has ''cheese'' in it so everyone feels the game is obligated to make it somewhat optimal.

And that is what I find the flaw in logic... :roll:
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Re: Sheep cheese

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*shrugs* There's nothing wrong with people having favorites.

To my knowledge cheese has lost its place hard on the "top tier" food bracket though for endgame. The satiation management on it is a pain.
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Re: Sheep cheese

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i wanted to bypass raising cows and pigs by using sheep as a hermit but sheep seems like you need to raise a medium-large herd to be competitive with cows for milk/cheese. they seem like a specialty animal that isn't really great

i was thinking of doing a cheeserack each day to make sheep cheese, that way i would get to slice a rack every day... but that would take quite a bit of space from what i see... not sure how large a herd i would need plus about 20 cheeseracks with enough cheese trays.. i guess 12l of milk to fill 3 trays, not sure how many ewes to produce that much every day for purely cheese

still, i will consider using mixed milk to bypass the charisma stats when unwanted charisma. going to be trying to switch over to cows shortly
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Re: Sheep cheese

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Thedrah wrote:i wanted to bypass raising cows and pigs by using sheep as a hermit but sheep seems like you need to raise a medium-large herd to be competitive with cows for milk/cheese. they seem like a specialty animal that isn't really great

i was thinking of doing a cheeserack each day to make sheep cheese, that way i would get to slice a rack every day... but that would take quite a bit of space from what i see... not sure how large a herd i would need plus about 20 cheeseracks with enough cheese trays.. i guess 12l of milk to fill 3 trays, not sure how many ewes to produce that much every day for purely cheese

still, i will consider using mixed milk to bypass the charisma stats when unwanted charisma. going to be trying to switch over to cows shortly
You can just have a herd of 5 sheep and focus raising their milk attribute to get more each if your concern is literally amount of animals.
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Re: Sheep cheese

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it's only that it takes about a month to make brique (not oscypki which is even longer)

i've had 3-4 generations since waiting for my first batch. i'm just giving my critique that sheep cheese is slow/hassle and idk if i'll be making much more
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Re: Sheep cheese

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Last time I made oscypki from brique(this world) it got done in a day or longer. Maybe I just traveled time.
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