Witchcraft / Shamanism

[KwonChiMin]

I think that`s the point when we should start gathering wood for fires.

[giftiger_wunsch]

I`m not only talking poisons, but curses as well.

Curses made from frogs and rats? Nah, doesn't sound right to me. I'm not really big on the whole curse idea, poisoning a well to harm its user is one thing, but having negative effects from having someone "curse" you, possibly without your knowledge? I'm not a fan.

[arriel]

I`m not only talking poisons, but curses as well.

Curses made from frogs and rats? Nah, doesn't sound right to me. I'm not really big on the whole curse idea, poisoning a well to harm its user is one thing, but having negative effects from having someone "curse" you, possibly without your knowledge? I'm not a fan.

Curse here is in a manner of charm, the same as with dreamcatcher-type chants. You install this thing near another`s household to produce some bad effects. It can be removed, if the one cursed find it and destroy it. (Non-magic explanation - damn dead rat stinks! your cattle is repulsive to their environment, and to, say, a breeding process as well).

I am not a big fan of evil witchcraft as idea overall, because, as you can see from the comment above yours, people would bring torches and pitchforks regardless.
So maybe if devs like witches idea, they might bring up the dark side of the deal so to say, but i`m not the one to go into details for it.

[giftiger_wunsch]

I am not a big fan of evil witchcraft as idea overall, because, as you can see from the comment above yours, people would bring torches and pitchforks regardless.

People will bring swords and axes... if you curse them. Most towns would have an evil witch for smiting their enemies. Why would you think practising witchcraft in a game would cause people to attack you lol

[arriel]

I am not a big fan of evil witchcraft as idea overall, because, as you can see from the comment above yours, people would bring torches and pitchforks regardless.

People will bring swords and axes... if you curse them. Most towns would have an evil witch for smiting their enemies. Why would you think practising witchcraft in a game would cause people to attack you lol

Get off my neck, I`m RPing much

[arriel]

Clarification.
I intended medicinal herbs to be created directly on medicine table, no seeds. Other way, www becomes obsolete again as soon as you have all herb types.
But that leaves out the quality of produced herbs. So I guess the quality should be directly affected by the quality of the table (same as q table?), and maybe get higher if the www was >q10.

Also, updated master post a bit after thread discussion.

[ThirdEmperor]

I see no reason to differentiate shamans and witches mechanically, not being able to create chants because I'm a dude would stink. plus, in the olden days there were wise men as well as wise women.

[Jackard]

no there were only crazy old bats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKCKdIPDTXE

[Sarge]

@ OP: You clearly spent a lot of time thinking this through and I like the idea very much I must admit. However, my thoughts are that it doesn't fit in with the genre, the intention of this game is to have a near replication of the era... I don't believe in witchcraft and I'm one of the punters of realism in this game.

Great post none the less.

[arriel]

@ OP: You clearly spent a lot of time thinking this through and I like the idea very much I must admit. However, my thoughts are that it doesn't fit in with the genre, the intention of this game is to have a near replication of the era... I don't believe in witchcraft and I'm one of the punters of realism in this game.

Great post none the less.

Thank you.
It may sound strange, but I`m trying to be realistic too It so happens that I`ve spent some time at my grandma`s village when I was young, and seen lots of things that people use, all these wards, amulets, curses.. everything that pertains to health is greatly influenced by one`s own belief. That is probably the least realistic part of what I wrote, but I know it works, because I`ve seen it working, not because of "magic" of any kind, but because of the tricks that are played by peoples own minds (think Granny Weatherwax "headology").
Everything else is as realistic as it gets, just google phytotherapy, pests repellent herbs, etc

What of amulets, well... my character is wearing bear tooth amulet at the moment, how does it fit in "none of that magic!" world and doesn`t fit in "power of belief" world, I have no idea.
Dryad creatures also... if they are not embodiment of the powers of nature, then what is.