stickman wrote:oh I am aware... there is 3 villages that I am aware of that were raided this way... they didn't break walls in 3 hours but they were all broken with catapults (i assume they needed charge up time, although the video above indicates no). I am not sure why he builds the ram. maybe to trick the defender
Probably waited for the defenders to go offline when the raid happened. No witnesses to complain!
But I think it was an unnecessary precaution. It's not like J&L seem to care, judging from their lack of action.
And yes, catapult can shoot right after being built. That's intended and pretty useful for destroying knarrs.
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I've been looking into this, and while the bug is real (and being fixed), I can not find any obvious traces in the logs of it being exploited, other than people seeming to be trying it on their own walls.
I have seen people continuing to use catapults to destroy walls after we thought we patched them to only be able to destroy other siege engines, but the people using them this way appear to have been unaware of this particular bug, and used them as if they still needed 24 hours to be able to destroy things. It is certainly our bad for not noticing that the patch was ineffective, but at least, from what I can tell, they were not used in any new, game-breaking way. Jorb and I will continue to discuss the case of the patch being ineffective the coming days and keep you updated with our findings and any decisions we may or may not make regarding that.
If you believe you have been raided with this bug in spite of me not finding obvious evidence to that effect, please post more details in this thread and I'll try to have a closer look at your specific case. While I don't think I have, I might possibly have missed something since I was trying to look at everything rather than a specific case.
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Tarlog wrote:Clarice village was destroyed as at least three villages near there by the same bug-using team with all known name
To perhaps clarify my post above, there are effectively two different aspects of this bug that I think must be treated separately:
One being that the patch for catapults was essentially ineffective, and that they have continued to be able to destroy walls, just as they were previously. Whether this is a "bug" or just an ineffective patch (making it more of an error in the changelogs than an error in the game) is somewhat debatable.
The other being that catapults have been able to destroy things without needing to wait 24 hours. This is clearly and obviously a bug, but it is also the one that I was unable to find any evidence of it actually being used.
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AD cave base was also bug raided by Felix and Zadek earlier this year
Apparently you can still extend the palisade from a fully dried claimed cornerpost (if the claim does not extend one tile over the palisade), then if you start bashing it at the right time (99% soak?), you should be able to cascade the destruction into fully dried tiles.
Thuzzy wrote:Apparently you can still extend the palisade from a fully dried claimed cornerpost (if the claim does not extend one tile over the palisade), then if you start bashing it at the right time (99% soak?), you should be able to cascade the destruction into fully dried tiles.
While this is technically true, I'm not sure how you actually exploit it. If the claim extends beyond the walls, you should not be able to criminally extend the walls at all, and if it doesn't, then the cascade damage shouldn't propagate onto the claim. No?
loftar wrote:I've been looking into this, and while the bug is real (and being fixed), I can not find any obvious traces in the logs of it being exploited, other than people seeming to be trying it on their own walls.
I have seen people continuing to use catapults to destroy walls after we thought we patched them to only be able to destroy other siege engines, but the people using them this way appear to have been unaware of this particular bug, and used them as if they still needed 24 hours to be able to destroy things. It is certainly our bad for not noticing that the patch was ineffective, but at least, from what I can tell, they were not used in any new, game-breaking way. Jorb and I will continue to discuss the case of the patch being ineffective the coming days and keep you updated with our findings and any decisions we may or may not make regarding that.
If you believe you have been raided with this bug in spite of me not finding obvious evidence to that effect, please post more details in this thread and I'll try to have a closer look at your specific case. While I don't think I have, I might possibly have missed something since I was trying to look at everything rather than a specific case.
"the people using them this way appear to have been unaware of this particular bug"
are you fucking kidding me? the people doing the raiding was snail and his crew in every instance i am aware of. they exploit every fucking world and u guys let them off the hook every time. its disgusting.
