Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

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Salad wrote:
dageir wrote:
Well, if my memory serves me right, and it usually does, your neighbours are Canada and Mexico. That is not the same as Germany, France, UK and Russia.
I also seem to recollect that being in a union did not seem to stop you guys from slaughtering eachother.

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Yeah let's talking about history, history from a point in time where there was a lot of fucked up shit happening to begin with, you think that people are same in the current year and back in 1861?

We have better ways to solve our problems now. I'm not denying that we fought, but then isn't now, and we're dealing with the now, get over it, your neighbors are strong, the only one you need to worry about is Russia.

the rest of you are giant cucks.
Feeling proud of something you havent archieved and calling other people cucks. LoL. Typical redneck.
Your country has 2 big parties. Both of them are rightists. Russia's government is rightist 2. No commies there dude. You 2 want the same stuff: controll of resources and geocontrol. You 2 play the same shit.
Also your country has 200 years of history and you are comparing yourself with us.

Go vote trump. Make "America" (lol) gr8 ag8n m8.

Meanwhile in Europe I can go to the doctor without paying 100.000 dollars or go to University without making absurdly rich a minority.
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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

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pedorlee wrote:
Salad wrote:
dageir wrote:
Well, if my memory serves me right, and it usually does, your neighbours are Canada and Mexico. That is not the same as Germany, France, UK and Russia.
I also seem to recollect that being in a union did not seem to stop you guys from slaughtering eachother.

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Yeah let's talking about history, history from a point in time where there was a lot of fucked up shit happening to begin with, you think that people are same in the current year and back in 1861?

We have better ways to solve our problems now. I'm not denying that we fought, but then isn't now, and we're dealing with the now, get over it, your neighbors are strong, the only one you need to worry about is Russia.

the rest of you are giant cucks.
Feeling proud of something you havent archieved and calling other people cucks. LoL. Typical redneck.
Your country has 2 big parties. Both of them are rightists. Russia's government is rightist 2. No commies there dude. You 2 want the same stuff: controll of resources and geocontrol. You 2 play the same shit.
Also your country has 200 years of history and you are comparing yourself with us.

Go vote trump. Make "America" (lol) gr8 ag8n m8.

Meanwhile in Europe I can go to the doctor without paying 100.000 dollars or go to University without making absurdly rich a minority.
Gl cuck
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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

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Salad wrote:
Eemerald wrote: peace in Europe is very much a good reason to be united.
Do you really need some stupid union to be at peace?
have you seen the state of the world we're in and the idiots who run it?
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Salad wrote:At least I don't need to worry about killing neighboring countries if I don't have a piece of paper saying we're in some stupid blood pact :lol:

You act like you have no restraint, you disgusting dogs. you'd eat each other at a moment's notice if the EU faded from existence
I'm slightly worried that somehow we've forgotten the number of conflicts many of our countries are engaged in and the numbers of people we are killing across the globe, even though I'd imagine, we all can agree that killing people is stupid. Yet, we do it anyway, like dogs who don't have restraints, and it isn't just Europe who have the leash go missing.

And really the EU doesn't have much to worry about. Brexit will ensure that no other European country will be dumb enough to do the stupidity that the UK is currently undergoing, which is the phase of ' We have no fucking clue what we're doing and things are going to shit'. I highly doubt, that's a particularly attractive alternative to the EU. At least we ensured that we educated other Europeans not to be dumb, because we were the first to do it, and could buy all the lies of having some great deals coming to our laps from Europe and how we'll be rolling in the money we'd save from being in the EU, because no one else had ventured into this territory. But we're an example of what can happen when you do!

yey for us :D
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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

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I do not think the right path for the EU is to alienate England and Wales. I understand that the EU leaders are angry with the British right now, but no good
will come from shutting them out completely. I hope Scottland and Northern Ireland gets to go their own way. The smaller the units the bigger the impact of the individual.
The bigger the impact of the individual, the more responsibility for the individual. Less complaining about things that are bad. The ideal situation would be a looser kind of EU
but with local autonomy for regions, not nations. Nations have gotten too big. EU as is, is too big and cumbersome.
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dageir wrote:I do not think the right path for the EU is to alienate England and Wales. I understand that the EU leaders are angry with the British right now, but no good
will come from shutting them out completely. I hope Scottland and Northern Ireland gets to go their own way. The smaller the units the bigger the impact of the individual.
The bigger the impact of the individual, the more responsibility for the individual. Less complaining about things that are bad. The ideal situation would be a looser kind of EU
but with local autonomy for regions, not nations. Nations have gotten too big. EU as is, is too big and cumbersome.
in my opinion I don't think Brexit will happen unless the UK negotiates a stronger unity trade wise with Europe or elsewhere, and if it happens, Scotland will most certainly have a referendum and this time they will win independence from the UK, and frankly I wouldn't blame them. They have a much better gvt imo, than we do in England, strong leadership, trying to deal with the issues, unlike many other nationalist parties which tend to lean too far right into racist territory.

Only time will tell.
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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

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Eemerald wrote:
dageir wrote:I do not think the right path for the EU is to alienate England and Wales. I understand that the EU leaders are angry with the British right now, but no good
will come from shutting them out completely. I hope Scottland and Northern Ireland gets to go their own way. The smaller the units the bigger the impact of the individual.
The bigger the impact of the individual, the more responsibility for the individual. Less complaining about things that are bad. The ideal situation would be a looser kind of EU
but with local autonomy for regions, not nations. Nations have gotten too big. EU as is, is too big and cumbersome.
in my opinion I don't think Brexit will happen unless the UK negotiates a stronger unity trade wise with Europe or elsewhere, and if it happens, Scotland will most certainly have a referendum and this time they will win independence from the UK, and frankly I wouldn't blame them. They have a much better gvt imo, than we do in England, strong leadership, trying to deal with the issues, unlike many other nationalist parties which tend to lean too far right into racist territory.

Only time will tell.
Brexit has to happen in some form. Otherwise I think a large portion of the population will be totally unhinged.
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I, for one, am all in favor of a European Union.
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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

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jorb wrote:I, for one, am all in favor of a European Union.
The prodigal son is back :)

Very smooth this time xD

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