Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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Massa
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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jock wrote:Ok,

If you want more metal sinks to make them decay when off claim and reduce the support range. This means we need to build more.

You could also add a new pillar that is much bigger than the old 2 but takes like 5 bars of cast iron
We don't need metal sinks.

We need spiral quality hop nerfs, higher slag chances, flat cast iron rates that don't get any effect from mining lore/skill tree.

It doesn't matter if they're useless, Jorb and Loftar can figure out a better use than higher smelt chance alone to supplement it later if they want. That alone though makes them crazy valuable.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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jock wrote:You could also add a new pillar that is much bigger than the old 2 but takes like 5 bars of cast iron
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I'll give you a hint, it sucks.

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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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boshaw wrote:one big sarcasm post
I would also add a hostile NPC that's a cloud of poison gas that behaves like midges but deal direct HHP loss through suffocation wounds and despawn after a set time.

Also, let midges inhabit caves.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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Im ok with minesweeper.
Im ok with the damage on mine supports.
Im semi-ok with mine support repair cost .
But Im NOT ok with chance of cave in's on mining these walls:
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There is no counter play...
And please dont even start with rustroot
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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Mamel wrote:Im ok with minesweeper.
Im ok with the damage on mine supports.
Im semi-ok with mine support repair cost .
But Im NOT ok with chance of cave in's on mining these walls:
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There is no counter play...
And please dont even start with rustroot
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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Well this is one change that probably had its intended purpose.

I haven't seen rampant tunneling of underground highways yet.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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beardhat wrote:Well this is one change that probably had its intended purpose.

I haven't seen rampant tunneling of underground highways yet.
Ironically, it's still pretty easy to tunnel in a relatively straight line it's just a lot harder to mine out nodes
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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Burinn wrote:
jock wrote:Ok,

If you want more metal sinks to make them decay when off claim and reduce the support range. This means we need to build more.

You could also add a new pillar that is much bigger than the old 2 but takes like 5 bars of cast iron
Why would anyone build something that takes 5x as much resource but isn't 5x as large.
bigger = did not mention size.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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boshaw wrote:All current mine supports should be removed. minesweeper should be mandatory.-snip-
Blessed are those sitting in their chair all day, eat, drink and smoke and let others do all the work :P


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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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JorbTar, this seriously sounds like straight up grade a cancer my dudes. As a casual gamer guy I can't wait to hit this fucking wall. Mining was a decent way to blow off a little steam with the side of potentially getting fucking shit on by the random slime pool or crazy ass worm or whatever.

There has to be a better way for you all to achieve whatever goal you had planned to achieve with this change.

p.s the server is down. please handle this shit, many thanks.

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