Game Development: Garden Bell

[Vigilance]

hoooooooooly shit

[graouh]

Removing the ability to everyone to hunt from a snekkja because someone had an army botted on his knarr is bad.

You can still fire arrows at it

And it didn't even fix the bug : ie shubla will next implement firing a bow with bots...
Or have an army of row boats...
Also what about sleds ? can people still put bots on them to help in fighting ?

IMO a good way to fix this issue is to make it so that only the driver - of any vehicle - can attack.
This has been said before though. Please consider it.

[algeralith]

The changes we made in this patch made it possible for one Realm to lose a significant amount of authority in ways not previously implied by their member permissions. Losses total 1M+ auth.

On account of this, we have bailed that Realm out with a stimulus package of 500k Auth.

Permissions have been changed so that: Issuing Realm challenges when the challenge counter is more than 1 now requires the permission to use Realm Abilities, as well as the permission to issue challenges. This is a temporary measure, and we will make further changes in light of this.

Updating OP. Thank you for reading.

You know, this very subject has been approached before. It was not the update that made it possible, it has always been possible.
Likewise, you are fully aware of this issue as it has been brought up before.

But, now that it has been used in a significant way, your tune has changed.

QQ

http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/vie ... 21#p669757

[pheonix]

This is now one of the absolute worst patches in the game.

[RickyRio]

The changes we made in this patch made it possible for one Realm to lose a significant amount of authority in ways not previously implied by their member permissions. Losses total 1M+ auth.

On account of this, we have bailed that Realm out with a stimulus package of 500k Auth.

Permissions have been changed so that: Issuing Realm challenges when the challenge counter is more than 1 now requires the permission to use Realm Abilities, as well as the permission to issue challenges. This is a temporary measure, and we will make further changes in light of this.

Updating OP. Thank you for reading.

If the damage done was known to be over 1M+ authority, not counting any potential damage done to the Realm's claims due to assumed drained authority (Assuming cairns can be destroyed if the realm authority is zero). Why was only 500k Auth restored?

[jorb]

Why was only 500k Auth restored?

• We have no general ambition to make people whole when we make mistakes, or cause bugs. Effects of bugs and other unforseen consequences are generally, and as a very strong rule, left as are. What we wanted to do was to offset the acute crisis.
• This is only partly our fault.

[algeralith]

Why was only 500k Auth restored?

• We have no general ambition to make people whole when we make mistakes, or cause bugs. Effects of bugs and other unforseen consequences are generally, and as a very strong rule, left as are. What we wanted to do was to offset the acute crisis.
• This is only partly our fault.

What happened has nothing to do with the changes. It was always possible before hand.

The only change that finally brought things into motion is the 15k cost per cairns.

Knowing full well that a village will not be able to rebuild from 0 auth with those costs finally pulled the trigger.

If anything, the changes that you believe are at fault, only saved a couple of minutes of work.

[Mario_Demorez]

Why was only 500k Auth restored?

• We have no general ambition to make people whole when we make mistakes, or cause bugs. Effects of bugs and other unforseen consequences are generally, and as a very strong rule, left as are. What we wanted to do was to offset the acute crisis.
• This is only partly our fault.

Why did you help the realm who got hurt due a game mechanic and the realms mistakes? Did you do the same for the hermits in Shubla’s video that drowned due to your game mechanics and their dumbness to get to land? Were they revived or gifted half their lost lp? For some reason this whole “fix” seems to put realms at a higher pedestal than anyone else who plays the game.

[AtoB]

[*] Building a Realm Authority Object now costs authority. The cost increases over the 40 first Realm Authority Objects you build, up to a maximum of 15k authority per object.

This just encourages more tendrils when building realms. It is kind of pointless wasting authority on cairns when they are not going to be able to pay themselves back.
In that regard, it sort of seems like a bad direction to go into. I thought you guys wanted to encourage more complete expansion of areas.

That could be a legit point. Will consider that.

Having the authority cost as a function of the border length should solve that problem nicely.

[jorb]

Why did you help the realm who got hurt due a game mechanic and the realms mistakes? Did you do the same for the hermits in Shubla’s video that drowned due to your game mechanics and their dumbness to get to land? Were they revived or gifted half their lost lp? For some reason this whole “fix” seems to put realms at a higher pedestal than anyone else who plays the game.

If those were ongoing situations, rather than fait accomplis, I might have done something about them.