-
LadyGoo
- Posts: 2767
- Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:06 am
Re: Vegetable Rennet
If the new rennet is going to be more accessible for the noobs, it'll be more accessible for everyone in general, which will wreck the animal industry.
Hafen Helpdesk Skype Conference [Eng]: https://join.skype.com/mxo3yVNbrCK9
Справочная Конференция [Ru]: https://join.skype.com/fnAcsc0srDBN
Trade Conference [Eng-Ru]: https://join.skype.com/gNT6Rs92PTtM
W10 Queen of Dis fiancée of Leanne69 (Lolo)
W9 Hive [Ruler]
W8 Dis [Chieftain]
W7 Ofir [Lawspeaker]
W6 Dis [Chieftain] & Disneyland
W5 Vitterstad [Lawspeaker]
W4 A.D. [Fighter]
W3 Garden of Metallurgists [LS]
Справочная Конференция [Ru]: https://join.skype.com/fnAcsc0srDBN
Trade Conference [Eng-Ru]: https://join.skype.com/gNT6Rs92PTtM
W10 Queen of Dis fiancée of Leanne69 (Lolo)
W9 Hive [Ruler]
W8 Dis [Chieftain]
W7 Ofir [Lawspeaker]
W6 Dis [Chieftain] & Disneyland
W5 Vitterstad [Lawspeaker]
W4 A.D. [Fighter]
W3 Garden of Metallurgists [LS]
-
shubla
- Posts: 13041
- Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:26 am
- Location: Finland
Re: Vegetable Rennet
It could give less stats. Thus there still would be a need for animal made rennet.LadyGoo wrote:If the new rennet is going to be more accessible for the noobs, it'll be more accessible for everyone in general, which will wreck the animal industry.

I'm not sure that I have a strong argument against sketch colors - Jorb, November 2019
http://i.imgur.com/CRrirds.png?1
Join the moderated unofficial discord for the game! https://discord.gg/2TAbGj2
Purus Pasta, The Best Client
-
MagicManICT
- Posts: 18435
- Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:47 am
Re: Vegetable Rennet
Just a reminder that rennet used to require intestines in legacy, not suckling maws. Those were strictly for the goldbeater's skin to make silver and gold jewelry (and then it was "calf intestine").
Not sure why it was changed. Current system is overly burdensome. Factory farming shouldn't be needed to make enough artisan cheese to feed myself and my family. Revert please.
Not sure why it was changed. Current system is overly burdensome. Factory farming shouldn't be needed to make enough artisan cheese to feed myself and my family. Revert please.
Opinions expressed in this statement are the authors alone and in no way reflect on the game development values of the actual developers.
-
synaris
- Posts: 1255
- Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:58 am
Re: Vegetable Rennet
-1 cheese is endgame content. perhaps if this new rennet only resulted in generic gouda, or other such inferior cheeses.
Newbie and noob do not mean the same thing.
Neither do figuratively and literally.
Neither do figuratively and literally.
-
Onep
- Posts: 2530
- Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:59 pm
- Location: Walwus
Re: Vegetable Rennet
hue hueLadyGoo wrote:which will wreck the botting industry.
“We still, alas, cannot forestall it-
This dreadful ailment's heavy toll;
The spleen is what the English call it,
We call it simply, Russian soul.”
An idea to consider: Tedium, a Feature.
Do you like Onep? Do you think he'd look good in green? www.Onep4mod.com
Jorb hates me. :\
This dreadful ailment's heavy toll;
The spleen is what the English call it,
We call it simply, Russian soul.”
An idea to consider: Tedium, a Feature.
Do you like Onep? Do you think he'd look good in green? www.Onep4mod.com
Jorb hates me. :\
-
Dakkan
- Posts: 666
- Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:58 am
Re: Vegetable Rennet
I absolutely hate doing cheese every day. Move trays. Empty tubs into fresh trays. Slaughter bebes, butcher bebes. Milk parents. Refill tubs. Make rennet. Refill tubs. refill swill. Farm swill crops. Give up at some point while working down that list.
But it's an endgame industry, and it feels work-appropriate. A hermit can easily do small scale cheese production currently. Cutting maws out of the industry is removing a huge part of the work involved.
But it's an endgame industry, and it feels work-appropriate. A hermit can easily do small scale cheese production currently. Cutting maws out of the industry is removing a huge part of the work involved.
-
MagicManICT
- Posts: 18435
- Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:47 am
Re: Vegetable Rennet
But it's not end game. You can have cheese production going in the first week of play. It is the top FEP production when set up properly, but that is the part that takes the time--the aging of the cheese--not the means to produce cheese all together.
Opinions expressed in this statement are the authors alone and in no way reflect on the game development values of the actual developers.
-
ricky
- Posts: 1475
- Joined: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:00 am
Re: Vegetable Rennet
Listen guys I dont understand why you've gone and got your nuts all twisted up over this.
A simple substitution of nettles - or perhaps another plant - for suckling's maw in the rennet recipe. You'll still need vinegar, you'll still need milk. Anyone committed to making more than a rack of cheese at a time will already have loads of dead babies laying around to harvest their sweet, sweet maws.
I, however, can never find the time nor will to have more than a handful of animals. I simply don't want to farm all day to feed a bunch of livestock. My request is a maw alternative so I can milk my one cow once a day and maybe go harvest some nettles and make a cheap - low quality because i dont breed livestock - cheese for funsies. I'm not asking to recreate the third reich with cheese here, I just want the ability to make cheese without supporting a whole family of livestock
A simple substitution of nettles - or perhaps another plant - for suckling's maw in the rennet recipe. You'll still need vinegar, you'll still need milk. Anyone committed to making more than a rack of cheese at a time will already have loads of dead babies laying around to harvest their sweet, sweet maws.
I, however, can never find the time nor will to have more than a handful of animals. I simply don't want to farm all day to feed a bunch of livestock. My request is a maw alternative so I can milk my one cow once a day and maybe go harvest some nettles and make a cheap - low quality because i dont breed livestock - cheese for funsies. I'm not asking to recreate the third reich with cheese here, I just want the ability to make cheese without supporting a whole family of livestock
Have a question? Need help? Tired of people asking questions? Haven and Hearth Wiki.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.jorb wrote:Ideally the game should play itself.
-
MagicManICT
- Posts: 18435
- Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:47 am
Re: Vegetable Rennet
I think simply reverting back to legacy method is more than enough. That they make it so you can't get rennet production materials except from young animals is just not realistic or even a reasonable abstraction from the real methods.
Opinions expressed in this statement are the authors alone and in no way reflect on the game development values of the actual developers.
-
jorb
- Posts: 18715
- Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:07 am
- Location: Here, there and everywhere.
Re: Vegetable Rennet
Not sold on this. I like that the maws are relevant.
"The psychological trials of dwellers in the last times will be equal to the physical trials of the martyrs. In order to face these trials we must be living in a different world."
-- Hieromonk Seraphim Rose
-- Hieromonk Seraphim Rose