It feels terrible for most people who have to catch 45 abyss gazers to get to level 4 in their fisherman credo that they are only doing to get to the later credos and have there village mate finish the entire credo by handing 11 asp to a talking boulder. Its not a matter of rushing the credo it's a matter of your effort not being properly rewarded because some quests are ridiculously hard while others are laughably easy.Pupsi wrote:Why rush credos so hard? You can't catch anyone who has an army of bots (in qualities, stats, attributes whatever). I play in my pleasure, if difficult quests come across to me, I wait a week or two (as with “visit mine level ...”) however I’m ready to wait a month to get what the holy RNG wants me to do. But as practice shows, there are no impossible quests, I take them as a challenge and not a punishment. PeaceKaios wrote:RNG
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rye130
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Sevenless
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Isn't that the reason why abandoning is available...? You don't need to do every quest you hit if you judge it's too hard.
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Lucky: can be so ugly, can be so heartwarming
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Kaios
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Re: Credos Need Urgent fixing
Bro I’ve done forager and I’m still stuck on quarryman the only reason I know what the credos are like further down the line is because of players that continuously abandon until they get quests they can do. You have already done 4 credos yourself and I have only completed one its entirety so don’t tell me I’m rushing because it just pisses me off more knowing how far ahead some other people are.Pupsi wrote:Why rushing credos so hard? You can't catch anyone who has an army of bots (in qualities, stats, attributes whatever). I play in my pleasure, if difficult quests come across to me, I wait a week or two (as with “visit mine level ...”) however I’m ready to wait a month to get what the holy RNG wants me to do. But as practice shows, there are no impossible quests, I take them as a challenge and not a punishment. PeaceKaios wrote:RNG
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Pupsi
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I am not talking specifically about you, but about the situation in general, which I observe in the game among people with whom I know or play together.Kaios wrote:Pupsi wrote:You have already done 4 credos yourself and I have only completed one its entirety so don’t tell me I’m rushing because it just pisses me off more knowing how far ahead some other people are.Kaios wrote:RNG
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Kaios
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Well ok, but how does that address any of the concerns I’ve posted about so far. You yourself have said that you didn’t skip over a sinlge quest and you have completed more credos than me, that is RNG working in your favour and against mine. There is no skill factor, there is no effort factor, there is no time factor, there is only luck. Luck and abandoning quests.
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Pupsi
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Thats why i love this game. Fate at its finestKaios wrote:Well ok, but how does that address any of the concerns I’ve posted about so far. You yourself have said that you didn’t skip over a sinlge quest and you have completed more credos than me, that is RNG working in your favour and against mine. There is no skill factor, there is no effort factor, there is no time factor, there is only luck. Luck and abandoning quests.
but still you dont know which ques i have completed
w5 Hermit>Road Ville>Horde>RQ
w6 The Sparta
w7 Isla de la tortuga>A.D>CookieVille (not sure if it was w7 or w6)
w8 Amish Paradise
w9 Amish Paradise
w10 Amish Paradise > Maid Cafe (until april 2017)
w11 Funcy Huts
w12
w6 The Sparta
w7 Isla de la tortuga>A.D>CookieVille (not sure if it was w7 or w6)
w8 Amish Paradise
w9 Amish Paradise
w10 Amish Paradise > Maid Cafe (until april 2017)
w11 Funcy Huts
w12
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Kaios
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You are right I don’t know and they may have all been the beginner credos but I will just re-iterate once again that I despise the questing system already, I hate how we are forced to go through these boring tasks because the benefits are far too useful to pass up and I really, truly detest that questing is such an important source of LP and experience. Do you guys remember why curios were implemented? Because I sure do and it wasn’t so we could get new mechanics that defeated the purpose of curio and study desk implementation.Pupsi wrote: Thats why i love this game. Fate at its finest
but still you dont know which ques i have completed
I would absolutely love to be able to limit my exposure to brain numbing activities as much as possible.
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azrid
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Wrong. By that time you can buy higher q things to catch up faster.Kaios wrote: If I am a new player hermiting or starting a new village 6 months in to a world and I am doing quarryman credo and need to visit a lvl 4 cave that is still going to be just as difficult as it was for players in the first week too.
Also when a game has RNG someone is going to be the biggest loser. Sorry it had to be you this time.


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Re: Credos Need Urgent fixing
There is many way to mitigate this problem:azrid wrote: Also when a game has RNG someone is going to be the biggest loser.
- Make RNG high only in area of game that is not critical to competition.
- Reduce variance between good roll and bad roll in term of how effective it is.
- Do not use true RNG, and instead use system that implements changing odds based on previous outcomes.
I have become victory of very nice Jordan Coles Contest! Enjoy my winning submit here if it pleasures you.Kaios wrote:Spice Girls are integral to understanding Ysh's thought process when communicating, duly noted.
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Having people be able to by-pass credo quests by spending LP would completely ruin one of the few things that make a difference between main characters and LP-sucking alts.
You could just buy your way through credos, no matter how expensive they would be. In the long run you could have all credos on an alt that never did a single quest, just by throwing tons of LP and int food onto it.
If you don't like questing, or can't find the will to go through it, just don't do it. Nobody forces you to do it.
As for those complaining about the farmer credo: it's like the easiest credo ever. You need 0 skills, only a large field. Just because you can't rush through it, doesn't make it bad. On the contrary, I like it.
I'd rather harvest 100 peppercorn than risk my life to go on the other side of the continent to find a piece of marble to deliver to a rock.
Having people be able to by-pass credo quests by spending LP would completely ruin one of the few things that make a difference between main characters and LP-sucking alts.
You could just buy your way through credos, no matter how expensive they would be. In the long run you could have all credos on an alt that never did a single quest, just by throwing tons of LP and int food onto it.
If you don't like questing, or can't find the will to go through it, just don't do it. Nobody forces you to do it.
As for those complaining about the farmer credo: it's like the easiest credo ever. You need 0 skills, only a large field. Just because you can't rush through it, doesn't make it bad. On the contrary, I like it.
I'd rather harvest 100 peppercorn than risk my life to go on the other side of the continent to find a piece of marble to deliver to a rock.