And this is why trusting dodgy game mechanics is a bad idea.
Honestly, if stuff like this is going to keep happening then IMO the visitor buff should be removed. No point in having a very exploitable (and riddled with edge cases) mechanic if its only going to fool people into their own demise. Atleast if it's removed people will know to secure their stuff properly (locking gates, etc).
Sorry for your loss bob.
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Incorrect. Each situation must be considered separately, but based on past experience. We are not the same (speaking of ruining the game each world by using bugs and abuses), so why should the law be the same?pedorlee wrote:I like Bob and his posts, but the law must be the same for all of us.
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I'm not saying rules should be different for anyone ...pedorlee wrote:Rules are the same for all of us, is he special at any point? Other people has died to abusers and has lost all and their chars hasnt been restored. That would be another big mistakeKeiriku wrote:I totally agree with that, atleast his char should be revived as a part of punishment to the abusers, nullifying their result.
and the worst show of arbitrarity and bad praxis.
I like Bob and his posts, but the law must be the same for all of us.
The closest example I can think of atm ..... we have a chain of shops over here that sell seconds in clothing, seconds mean that the item has a minor defect that prevents it being sold in the store it was intended for, like a wrong size label, a slightly shorter or longer hem, anything that doesn't prevent the item being wearable. When you buy from there you know what you are getting, you can't return the item because you are a size 8 and the label says size 10, if however you get it home and it has a gaping rip in it somewhere, then ofc you are within your rights to return it and get a full refund, the item is unwearable.
We play this game and pay for it fully accepting that there may be the odd glitch or bug but if devs introduce mechanics that then result in the loss of your char and your base then that is the same kind of fault as the item above being unwearable and if it happened to me I would be demanding some form of compensation. I'm not saying I'd get it, and I am fully aware of the devs stance on this, I'm just simply giving my own opinion on how these types of situations should be handled now that we are paying customers. I don't expect everyone to agree with me and I certainly don't think rules should be different for different ppl. I just don't see the Hogwarts thing as clearly cut and dried as you do.
This new abuse may also turn out to be a muddled affair, we don't know yet.
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Sorry for your loss dole.
Pretty sad seeing things like this happening more and more these days.
Pretty sad seeing things like this happening more and more these days.
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I'm waiting for some insightful posts from Detective Colesies tbh. But, I think we're all pretty sure who dun it.
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.
Probably because I'm used to Civil law while you are used to Common law. In your system the judge create laws through jurisprudence and it becomes law, while in our law system jurisprudence its the 3rd or 4rth source of law. Im also used to iuspositivism, and thats why I was asking for a strong rule set.Leksar wrote:Incorrect. Each situation must be considered separately, but based on past experience. We are not the same (speaking of ruining the game each world by using bugs and abuses), so why should the law be the same?pedorlee wrote:I like Bob and his posts, but the law must be the same for all of us.
In haven there arent laws, we have Kings or Gods, and theyr word is the law.
If they stated "Nobody will be resurectedno matter what" it means that this is the law. And so this is why I say that arbitrarism is dangerous because then nobody will ever know for sure what is going to happen next. That is dangerous,nasty and unfair.
While I say "All must be tratened by the same law" you understand like there is no judgement or guarantees to investigate case per case, and thats not what Im saying. Of course I think devs must and will investigate this, but this doesnt mean they must change the rules at will for the reasons exposed before.
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.
What is there to say? It's pretty obvious to me that this raid was a result of poor village planningOnep wrote:I'm waiting for some insightful posts from Detective Colesies tbh. But, I think we're all pretty sure who dun it.
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And as one of the people who died in that raid, I wouldn't be upset if Dole was revived one bit.spawningmink wrote:If they red the char that is bullshit considering last world there was a wall jump and all they got was one month of sub? Nahhhh suck it up bob you made to many enemy's
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.
If Attentionwhore Coles is not even posting pictures of him "checking out" the crime scene, you can guess it was Ainran.jordancoles wrote:What is there to say? It's pretty obvious to me that this raid was a result of poor village planningOnep wrote:I'm waiting for some insightful posts from Detective Colesies tbh. But, I think we're all pretty sure who dun it.
Could you please tell us how you did it? Haha!
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.
Somone dares to bug abuse in haven?
Oh, im sooo surprised

Oh, im sooo surprised

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