Guns for teachers - The MemePresident

[Aceb]

I've researched a bit how it is and I came to conclussion of:
Every school should have a guard or some shit like this who carries a weapon. Sure, that person might be the first target for someone but as well as first person to go in.

Teachers shouldn't have access to guns unless they got the papers for it themselfs. There's too many teachers in every country that abuse their position and fuck with kids psychique.

One for sure, rifles (especially assault) should be banned as those aren't for hunting. Those are for killing. Even self-protection is farfetch'd, as You would only use an assault rifle against a group of armed robbers inside your house.


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For fuck sake, stop saying that we live in dark ages because some stupid douchebag used a gun to kill innocents. If You want to say it is because of that a dark age, then we live in dark ages since first hu-man killed his first hu-man victim. We live in an era where information is spreading faster than ketchup on your pizza. On top of that, people react emotionally.

[Ysh]

ketchup on your pizza

Any man who do this deserve to be shot.

[tigerlrg245]

If you are wanting to shoot up a bunch of people and you walk into a school which sign would you rather see? "Warning: this school has armed guards" or "This school is a weapon free zone".

If I were a student planning to shoot up his school, I wouldn't care either way. My life is over anyways, and I'm so sick of this school that I'm going to fuck it up regardless of how many people here have guns. I doubt school shooters think much about the consequences or make any analysis of how 'safe' it would be to shoot up their school (spoiler: you die or get a life sentence regardless of security level).

You don't fix kids trying to shoot up schools by making them fear the consequences, it's an issue with mental health and gun safety.
The guns for the teachers are there to protect the kids that are being shot at.

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[sMartins]

oh god ... what a dark era is the ours ... we will be remebered in the history books worse than the middle ages.
Only thing i'm disappointed about is that I will not be able to see when we, all westerners, will finally disappear from the face of the earth.

People that rave on and on about how terrible the world is are usually doing so from the comfort of their homes and just remind me of old people reminiscing about the "Good Ol Days" munching their modern lifespan-extending pills.

Yeah I live very well for sure in one of the best countries in the world (thx to our past) .... that doesn't mean I cannot critique how things are going on these days and the direction we are choosing.

@Aceb I told that not cause kids shoot in the schools but for the bullshits the first president in the west can say about it.

[foomanchu]

[Potjeh]

I also love how AR15s are often presented as a valid hunting weapon. Bolt action is where it's at, if you need semi auto to hunt you're a shitty marksman and you shouldn't be hunting because you'll likely wound more animals than you'll kill.

[viznew]

well theres a culture of guns in america iv known a few people that make thier guns (from blocks of metal) so even if ban some will still have if can find just one, thay can copy (and its already illegal)

its not just hunting its its own culture

but if thay put guns in a safebox that teacher will need a short code for (if opened it chould alert cops) so misuse can be countered
(thou guns in the budget is prob terriable idea)

personally i dont think it will change soon (trump would distory his backing banning guns)

but now we need to start killing these shooters early and give more money to schools for protection and mental evals (but the budget was cut to give military more money)

[Kirche]

what's your counter-argument sMartins, what's so ridiculous about his statement, you're dismissing it by saying "haha lol looook how ridiculous" but you've yet to say why it's ridiculous, please, present your argument against allowing teachers their god given right to self preservation?

[sMartins]

what's your counter-argument sMartins, what's so ridiculous about his statement, you're dismissing it by saying "haha lol looook how ridiculous" but you've yet to say why it's ridiculous, please, present your argument against allowing teachers their god given right to self preservation?

Only thing I can say it's I really hope your joking now ...

[synaris]

iv been hesitating to post in this thread for hours now. because i will never convince people that have already made up their minds, but. i've lost patience. your all full of shit.

http://thefederalist.com/2014/11/11/kni ... e-control/

more people die in france from knives than people in the USA do from guns. but morons compare gun deaths to gun deaths. NO SHIT a nation that doesnt allow citizens to carry guns will have less gun related deaths. but have you looked at HOW ELSE they kill people? if someone wants you dead, they will find a way. be it a gun, a knife, a car to run you over with, or barring all else they will just strangle you. a gun is the tool used. the real problem is what motivated someone to kill.

recently a man in a church shot someone who openly admitted on facebook that he was planning on mass murdering people across several churches. first one he went to he only got a few shots off before a good man with a gun took him down. good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns. the police cannot teleport to a scene. guns in the hands of good guys save lives.

in addition, everyone wants to ban the rifles. rifles rifles rifles. when HANDGUNS are responsible for the majority of murders via gun. if you're going to try and claim that there would be less murders with less guns, at least mention the most commonly used gun for murder.

hitler, stalin and castro took the guns. all the dictators agree. gun control works when you want to enslave a nation. america was born of revolution, and we never want to go back to the kind of tyranny of king george or anyone like him.

non-americans may not understand but, that second amendment isnt there for everyday use. its not there for hunting, its not there for bragging rights. the only time we will need it, is when its under attack. it was made so that we protect ourselves from all enemies. foreign, AND DOMESTIC. john hancock himself told a merchant that yes, he was allowed to have cannons on his ship to protect himself from pirates. thats one of the reasons they wrote the second amendment. the other reason was so that we may defend ourselves from evil politicians that seek to exploit and enslave us. thats why the FBI does nothing to stop these school shootings. the same people in the goverment who hate trump want these shootings to use as an excuse to take our guns. these kids are all on antidepressants that list as a side effect that it can make you a mass murderer. they announce their plans beforehand, the FBI admitted that they knew the kid was psycho, and they didnt do shit about it.

if you really believe that taking the guns stops crime you need to look at chicago. people loved to brag about it being the first gun free city. its also the first city with "no go zones" where police actually STOP YOU FROM ENTERING because crime is so high in that area. its the murder capitol of the united states now.

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i cant imagine the kind of effort and determination it takes to deny reality the way some of you do. its like living your life while pretending that gravity doesnt exist. reality doesnt match up with your view of guns and crime.