Indeed, and those are rare events, hence "rarely". We did make sige changes with the reset you know.Omnipotent wrote:A good time would be on world restart. You know, before people already have walls built?jorb wrote:There's rarely a good time.DDDsDD999 wrote:Kinda dumb you guys are doing this right now, and potentially screwing over a lot of village designs that have been built.
-
jorb
- Posts: 18715
- Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:07 am
- Location: Here, there and everywhere.
Re: New Siege Implementation: Siege Claims
"The psychological trials of dwellers in the last times will be equal to the physical trials of the martyrs. In order to face these trials we must be living in a different world."
-- Hieromonk Seraphim Rose
-- Hieromonk Seraphim Rose
-
bmjclark
- Posts: 4053
- Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:40 am
- Location: Ontario, Canada
Re: New Siege Implementation: Siege Claims
And you're making them again because a single faction threw an autistic hissy fit on the forums to the detriment of everyone else.jorb wrote:
Indeed, and those are rare events, hence "rarely". We did make sige changes with the reset you know.
Cajoes wrote:I was the murder victim your guy aggro'd. And slew. Entirely unprovoked. Rather handily at that. Which prompted the retaliatory party. That you also handily slew.
-
Omnipotent
- Posts: 291
- Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:55 pm
- Location: California
Re: New Siege Implementation: Siege Claims
The squeaky wheel gets the grease my friend.bmjclark wrote:And you're making them again because a single faction threw an autistic hissy fit on the forums to the detriment of everyone else.jorb wrote:
Indeed, and those are rare events, hence "rarely". We did make sige changes with the reset you know.
-
shubla
- Posts: 13041
- Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:26 am
- Location: Finland
Re: New Siege Implementation: Siege Claims
So somebody can build a palisade 99 tiles away from my wall, and build single wrecking ball in it. And then my walls will be destructible within 18 hours?
Sounds like a shitty system to me.
Sounds like a shitty system to me.

I'm not sure that I have a strong argument against sketch colors - Jorb, November 2019
http://i.imgur.com/CRrirds.png?1
Join the moderated unofficial discord for the game! https://discord.gg/2TAbGj2
Purus Pasta, The Best Client
-
Burinn
- Posts: 3097
- Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:48 pm
- Location: Internet Prison Plotting Her Escape
Re: New Siege Implementation: Siege Claims
Bashing the wall and building a new one is trivial. The amount of work needed to replace it safely if there is no external perimeter to expand to is barely more than that, use your brain.Omnipotent wrote:False.jorb wrote:Disagree with that, fam. You can build a new wall around your base.
Take for example a village that has settled on an island. They were ambitious and already extended our walls to the maximum possible borders available. They want the best defense for themselves, and they build palisades all around it to defend their base. This change gets implemented and they decide they would like to upgrade to brick walls. But in order to build brick walls, they have to either destroy the already existing walls, or build another wall inside of that wall which will still probably need to get bashed in some places.
The one or two fringe cases your talking about shouldn't stop Good™ changes from being made to the game regardless.
sabinati wrote:do you expect me to just check the forum constantly, fuck off
-
jorb
- Posts: 18715
- Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:07 am
- Location: Here, there and everywhere.
Re: New Siege Implementation: Siege Claims
No, because I see some real problems, not least of which are the palisading of precisely everything.bmjclark wrote:And you're making them again because a single faction threw an autistic hissy fit on the forums to the detriment of everyone else.jorb wrote:
Indeed, and those are rare events, hence "rarely". We did make sige changes with the reset you know.
"The psychological trials of dwellers in the last times will be equal to the physical trials of the martyrs. In order to face these trials we must be living in a different world."
-- Hieromonk Seraphim Rose
-- Hieromonk Seraphim Rose
-
jorb
- Posts: 18715
- Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:07 am
- Location: Here, there and everywhere.
Re: New Siege Implementation: Siege Claims
Go back and read the suggestion again.shubla wrote:So somebody can build a palisade 99 tiles away from my wall, and build single wrecking ball in it. And then my walls will be destructible within 18 hours?
Sounds like a shitty system to me.
"The psychological trials of dwellers in the last times will be equal to the physical trials of the martyrs. In order to face these trials we must be living in a different world."
-- Hieromonk Seraphim Rose
-- Hieromonk Seraphim Rose
-
Omnipotent
- Posts: 291
- Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:55 pm
- Location: California
Re: New Siege Implementation: Siege Claims
You do realize islands are spherical right? Not square?Burinn wrote:Bashing the wall and building a new one is trivial. The amount of work needed to replace it safely if there is no external perimeter to expand to is barely more than that, use your brain.
The one or two fringe cases your talking about shouldn't stop Good™ changes from being made to the game regardless.
-
loftar
- Posts: 9096
- Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:05 am
- Location: Your character database
Re: New Siege Implementation: Siege Claims
Again, arguing that we can't ever add better walls does not make a terribly strong case to me. Your base has not become worse than it was last world.Omnipotent wrote:You do realize islands are spherical right? Not square?
"Object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing." -- Rob Pike
-
Omnipotent
- Posts: 291
- Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:55 pm
- Location: California
Re: New Siege Implementation: Siege Claims
That's not my argument. If there were someway to upgrade the already pre-existing walls I am 100% okay with it. Burinn is trying to claim it's easy and supposedly safe to break down your only wall and build another in it's place.loftar wrote:Again, arguing that we can't ever add better walls does not make a terribly strong case to me. Your base has not become worse than it was last world.Omnipotent wrote:You do realize islands are spherical right? Not square?
But as it stands, changing the logic for every pre-existing wall and not allowing the people to make their own changes accordingly is fucked up.