Major Faction PvP Battles of W11

[DDDsDD999]

How do group/party fights work with non-rage characters? Do the non-rage characters need to wait to attack until they've been personally aggro'd, or is there some kind of party aggro-sharing mechanic?

Non-ragers just wait until they get aggro'd. Not aggroing them isn't really an option because they can do shit like fuel their team mates or body block or other shit.

[SnuggleSnail]

and also unlike world 10 it's not just unlikely they die, it's functionally impossible for them to die in actual combat xdxd
pls make B12s 60% again

[bmjclark]

Because of B12s nerf to grievious damage, im pretty sure it only applies deep cuts (from my limited testing) instead of applying more severe wounds like other weapons can. There was so much wrong with that nerf.

But honestly, either everybody should be able to die outright in pvp or no one should imo. This in between shit causes so much gaming the system, which literally everyone could see coming except jorb apparently.

[SnuggleSnail]

But honestly, either everybody should be able to die outright in pvp or no one should imo. This in between shit causes so much gaming the system

This.

1) Everybody always dies;
2) Everybody sometimes dies;
3) Nobody dies;
4) Some people die, some people are immortal

Of the options 4) is the worst one by far.

[borka]

yay instant drop dead (and immediate body disappearance) for those that go willingly into pvp combat without having bought rage first ... happy exploiters ...

[dafels]

1) make non-rage chars identifiable
2) spars shouldnt fuel real combat relation maneuvers and the move that doesn't create opening(feigned dodge?) shouldn't boost maneuvers.
why is sparring a thing at the same time with people having real combat relations though?

this would make combat less gay...

[Headchef]

1) make non-rage chars identifiable
2) spars shouldnt fuel real combat relation maneuvers and the move that doesn't create opening(feigned dodge?) shouldn't boost maneuvers.
why is sparring a thing at the same time with people having real combat relations though?

this would make combat less gay...

this

[SnuggleSnail]

2) spars shouldnt fuel real combat relation maneuvers and the move that doesn't create opening(feigned dodge?) shouldn't boost maneuvers.
why is sparring a thing at the same time with people having real combat relations though?

So, what, the strat goes from spar>feign dodge to leave group>aggro>sideswipe? Literally changes nothing, while making the game slightly less intuitive. I mean, heck, people already use sideswipe to fuel over feign dodge sometimes.

Even if a non-rage character couldn't fuel though, they'd still be useful.
1) Mining meteorite;
2) Ferrying/denying boats;
3) Driving knarrs;
4) Picking speed buffs;
5) Body blocking;
6) Looting;
7) Horses?

1) make non-rage chars identifiable

If J&L want non-rage characters to be immortal, why would they let me identify which hermits I can get free developed skulls from if it doesn't even fix actual combat.


I'M PRETTY SURE the only real solution to this problem is to make people not immortal.

[jordancoles]

If they made it so that you couldn't spar while in real combat, what happens if you're already in a spar and someone tries to agro you?
Would it drop the spar interaction? Would they be unable to agro you (a likely bug)?

What if you're already at 100% combat med when the real combat interaction starts?

[Headchef]

If they made it so that you couldn't spar while in real combat, what happens if you're already in a spar and someone tries to agro you?
Would it drop the spar interaction? Would they be unable to agro you (a likely bug)?

What if you're already at 100% combat med when the real combat interaction starts?

Just reset everything would be the best answer?

Includes openings gained from spar in my opinion, no meditation, nothing. It's complete and utter bullshit and no reason current system should work this way it's purely retarded.
Puching your friend so he gains advantage in combat, such joke.