Dunno about that but I can go weeks trying to find cave clay and maybe finding 4 a week while people tell, when they run a bot, they get daily somewhere of full inventory, because why not.jock2 wrote:waga wrote:With boneclay I can just go out and collect materials for a super bad kiln in a few hours. (Of course this is just because it's so late in the world)svino wrote:I gotta say, I miss making bone clay.
It's a lot more fun to work hard on collecting bones and pit clay for months just to make that perfect kiln.
With potters clay you can just go out and collect materials for a super kiln in a few hours. (Of course this is just because it's so late in the world)
Or ... I could let a bot do that ...
And that ia the worst and hardest part to balance. Botting, how much does the gameplay need to suffer because a bot can do it better?
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Aceb
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waga
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Oh I do agree with you , and that's why I changed my stance about bot , I used to not care at all.
But it affects the balancing way too much at the moment ...
Believe me , if they make bone clay the best clay OR make bone clay part of the recipe in potter clay , normal users won't stand a chance.
I witnessed a cave clay bot in action , the creator of said bot being a friend , you cant just compete with that.
I personally collect cave clay once in a blue moon
But it affects the balancing way too much at the moment ...
Believe me , if they make bone clay the best clay OR make bone clay part of the recipe in potter clay , normal users won't stand a chance.
I witnessed a cave clay bot in action , the creator of said bot being a friend , you cant just compete with that.
I personally collect cave clay once in a blue moon
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svino
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waga wrote:Oh I do agree with you , and that's why I changed my stance about bot , I used to not care at all.
But it affects the balancing way too much at the moment ...
Believe me , if they make bone clay the best clay OR make bone clay part of the recipe in potter clay , normal users won't stand a chance.
I witnessed a cave clay bot in action , the creator of said bot being a friend , you cant just compete with that.
I personally collect cave clay once in a blue moon
Slimes make those cave clay bots much less effective. Maybe just restrict cave clay to being only on lower levels where slimes can spawn, or maybe remove cave clay from bone clay recipe.
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Aceb
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1. Slimes aren't an issue in exploring caves, unless it's tight tunnel or there's a swarm of them.svino wrote:waga wrote:Oh I do agree with you , and that's why I changed my stance about bot , I used to not care at all.
But it affects the balancing way too much at the moment ...
Believe me , if they make bone clay the best clay OR make bone clay part of the recipe in potter clay , normal users won't stand a chance.
I witnessed a cave clay bot in action , the creator of said bot being a friend , you cant just compete with that.
I personally collect cave clay once in a blue moon
Slimes make those cave clay bots much less effective. Maybe just restrict cave clay to being only on lower levels where slimes can spawn, or maybe remove cave clay from bone clay recipe.
2. And render cave clay completety useless, making it only purely aesthetic?
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jock2
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So it leaves the game lossing rare or high value goods because bots can find it better. Botting is a problem the developers can't and won't deal with.waga wrote:Oh I do agree with you , and that's why I changed my stance about bot , I used to not care at all.
But it affects the balancing way too much at the moment ...
Believe me , if they make bone clay the best clay OR make bone clay part of the recipe in potter clay , normal users won't stand a chance.
I witnessed a cave clay bot in action , the creator of said bot being a friend , you cant just compete with that.
I personally collect cave clay once in a blue moon
They state it is due to boring mechanics people bot but that isn't the case anymore. It has become bot or don't try to compete. I return to my regular and sadly only solution. Personal servers, i spoke to jorb and we had a discussion over it. It was positive but not an immediate solution.
I have first hand seen what bots can do and know my group could not keep up even at our peak.
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On bot topic:
On potterly clay topic feedback:
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Flyrella
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Finding cave clay is not hard but boring. Find a large enough underground lake and log in every 15 min. Once in a while you find some.Aceb wrote:On bot topic:On potterly clay topic feedback:
As for this particular recipe of fire clay, pls no. Top q metal already allows making potter clay of unreachable q. If the iron bar is added and affects the q, it would be even more unreachable.
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Schattengaenger
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Reading trough the salt in the first 4 pages nearly mummified my body solid.
Is it really so hard to maintain at least some composure and give them you crutique in a civilized manner?
Or do you really think that swearing get yuo further than well-argued thoughts on the matter.
"Oi mate, your fucked up big time here ... this is just shit"
"I have now told you 4 times that this is shit, so why don't you make it better"
"That'S not better that is just more shit than before"
Is it really so hard to maintain at least some composure and give them you crutique in a civilized manner?
Or do you really think that swearing get yuo further than well-argued thoughts on the matter.
"Oi mate, your fucked up big time here ... this is just shit"
"I have now told you 4 times that this is shit, so why don't you make it better"
"That'S not better that is just more shit than before"
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jordancoles
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Schattengaenger wrote:Reading trough the salt in the first 4 pages nearly mummified my body solid.
Is it really so hard to maintain at least some composure and give them you crutique in a civilized manner?
Or do you really think that swearing get yuo further than well-argued thoughts on the matter.
"Oi mate, your fucked up big time here ... this is just shit"
"I have now told you 4 times that this is shit, so why don't you make it better"
"That'S not better that is just more shit than before"

Check out my pro-tips threadDuhhrail wrote:No matter how fast you think you can beat your meat, Jordancoles lies in the shadows and waits to attack his defenseless prey. (tl;dr) Don't afk and jack off.

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I agree with your botting discussion. If you were a lone botter you will not be able to survive and if you do it's because no one has spotted you. You cannot bot combat and have it be effectively. People typically bot to avoid doing the tedious work such as farming (even though it's not that bad), foraging, road/village building, etc.. Something that'll shut this botting discussion is if bots were to be released. An example, world 6 or world 7 of legacy, Union client was released and everyone in the community started creating bots and shared some of them publicly. From the scripts people released I learned a little bit about how javascript worked and how the union API adapted it. I eventually started making my own bots and learned a new hobbie which was learning some coding through making haven and hearth scripts.Aceb wrote:On bot topic:
